12:59 pm
September 5, 2013
Not sure ZagBank included or not?
1:29 pm
December 12, 2009
Unless specifically stated, I would say no because Zag Bank was a fully separate subsidiary, with entirely different banking systems and an online banking interface. Its I.T. infrastructure and databases were completely separate. So, unless the Desjardins' release specifically mentions Zag or other subsidiaries, I would say no.
On a related note, Zag Bank has wound down substantially all of their non-registered and registered GICs, save for maybe $200-300,000 in mostly RRSP/TFSA GICs, and maybe $15-25,000 in non-registered GICs. On mortgages, they've got maybe $100-200 million in mortgages outstanding, so I could very easily see them be fully wound down by the end of 2021 or 2022, if not sooner depending if they decide to sell off the remaining run-off mortgage portfolio to a larger player (i.e., First National, or to Desjardins itself) as a play to capture new business come renewal time. RBC Royal Bank did this with Ally when they closed Ally HISAs immediately at closing and had RBC Royal Bank assume any registered plan GICs. RBC Auto Finance also assumed the auto finance loan operations of Ally Canada. With regard to Ally mortgages, in a separate transaction, which were mostly securitized off-balance sheet, were sold (i.e., servicing rights and administration) to MCAP. Before the end of 2014, RBC was able to fully dissolve ResMor Trust Company.
Cheers,
Doug
4:25 pm
March 17, 2018
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/desjardins-data-breach-1.5183297
It was revealed that over 40% of members of Desjardins had their information stolen by an employee including names, addresses, birth dates, social insurance numbers, email addresses and information about transaction habits.
1:35 pm
December 12, 2015
7:30 pm
December 12, 2015
From CTV: Desjardins Group is facing a legal backlash after a class-action lawsuit has been initiated in connection with a data breach affecting nearly three million members.
The proposed class action, filed in Quebec Superior Court on Friday, alleges the co-operative financial group was negligent in safeguarding its members' personal and financial information.
What impact will this have?
7:52 pm
October 27, 2013
I suspect the proposed class action suit will not be certified to proceed, or be without merit.... provided Desjardins had reasonable business controls in place to try and prevent such internal activity. There is not much a company can be held liable for, i.e. in terms of negligence, if a number of employees conspire to circumvent reasonably robust business controls.
FWIW, I was a participant in the Equifax credit monitoring plan for a year as a result of the Home Depot breach. Not sure I was overly impressed with it, but I did continue at my own cost for a further 18 months, just in case the perpetrators were waiting for the one year freebie was the starting gate for the sale of stolen information. At 15.95/month, it was expensive credit monitoring, though I suppose I could have downgraded to a $10 or $12 plan.
8:01 pm
December 12, 2015
5:13 pm
October 21, 2013
As I heard it, the accounts themselves were not as vulnerable as the people's identities. If I were a Desj customer, I'd be more worried about identity theft than about the account. There's nothing you can do to change your birthdate. Maybe govt should consider a mechanism to issue new SINs in such cases?
The issue was a rogue employee and other employees who may have been unwittingly involved by sharing their passwords with that person, as I heard it. All of this was in violation of company policy. There might be arguments about how well that policy was disseminated or written etc., but it ought to be obvious in my view.
However, it could be argued that Desj should have realized that there was a problem in the pattern of PW use, I suppose; and supervisory negligence could potentially be an issue. It could also be argued that they did inadequate employee screening.
I wouldn't throw the class action out the window just yet, but I am not a lawyer.
10:56 am
February 20, 2018
new promo to soften blow?
https://www.desjardins.com/en/votre_caisse/promotions.jsp?transit=82922222#already-member
9:44 am
September 5, 2013
Desjardins to offer all members free, lifelong protection after data breach
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/desjardins-data-breach-protection-1.5212030
11:17 am
December 20, 2016
1:53 pm
October 27, 2013
7:09 pm
March 17, 2018
AltaRed said
I've not been notified from Desjardins so assume Zag was not compromised.
Not being notified just means you weren't one of the 40% of the clients whose identity was stolen. That doesn't necessarily mean other Zag clients are in the clear, although common sense says they would be since it's a different bank. It'd be interesting to find out if a Zag client's identity was stolen for possibly some other reason if Desjardins would pay to defend them and assist them. I'm a Desjardins credit union customer who didn't get the email either, but I certainly will keep my account active just in case I get my identity stolen in the future. I might even take out one of their credit cards, which is why I had opened up the account to begin with, but hadn't gotten around to applying for the card yet.
7:56 pm
October 27, 2013
3:39 pm
April 15, 2015
My wife just received a letter today from Desjardins today.
Desjardins has conducted an internal review and analysis, and found that an ill-intentioned employee had access to the personal information of our members and clients who have or had a caisse (banking) account, credit card or point-of-sale financing (in-store Accord D financing and auto and leisure vehicle loans). No credit cards or other payment methods, like Interac or debit cards, have been compromised.
Our review shows that the affected data may include some of your personal information. We want to assure you that you won't suffer a financial loss if any unauthorized transactions are made in your Desjardins accounts as a result of this situation. Additional security measures were put in place as soon as the situation was detected. Our top priority is to ensure the protection of our members' and clients' personal and financial data.
Please read the enclosed information very carefully. It explains how we're here to help protect you.
Marie-Andree Alain
Chief Privacy Officer
Desjardins Group
They recommend my wife signs up for Equifax & they will cover the cost for 5 years. I think I have this in the wrong topic.Nothing to do with Zag.
4:45 pm
April 15, 2020
This happened to me 2-3 years ago when information on my credit card was breached. I have access to Transunion credit report for 2 years. Actually there is nothing new. After two years they will try to get me to renew on a monthly basis. Cost maybe $19.95 per month. Many of the big 5 banks give you access report free. I will use the big 5 report at the time. Nothing wrong with your wife signing up.
7:12 am
October 5, 2016
Briguy said
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/desjardins-data-breach-1.5183297It was revealed that over 40% of members of Desjardins had their information stolen by an employee including names, addresses, birth dates, social insurance numbers, email addresses and information about transaction habits.
It was later revealed that ALL individual members are affected (including myself...):
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/desjardins-data-breach-1.5344216
That was not the end "Desjardins announced the leak also affects credit card holders and other financing clients with the company.":
https://globalnews.ca/news/6278790/desjardins-data-breach-credit-cards/
8:16 am
July 10, 2011
toto said
I had read that identity thieves that breached Desjardins, got the cerb payments deposited in multiple fake accounts.
Theres' quite a few people who I know took CERB knowing they fall outside of qualifications.. Business owners leaving half their operations open and claiming CERB... etc.. This program will never be audited unless conservatives gain power and even then I don't know if we really want to know how bad the fraud really was.. Write it off and move on might be the best strategy...
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