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Today is a good day because there is a global outage
July 19, 2024
8:20 am
hwyc
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I woke up and hear the news about a *global* outage. Wasn't quite concern until I went to my TD branch to deposit a cheque. However, branch staff advise me that the teller terminals was down & non-operational. The ATMs & mobile-banking is still ok!

Later I went online to Motive - signing on was ok, but there was a Cloudflare error when I logout, seems strange that an error came up only when on the way out.

Lessons learned - All for one, one for all. You can be sure of a single point of failure in your blind spot. And there is nothing you can do, because it is "global".

July 19, 2024
8:45 am
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Some are already starting to come back online, but for others this outage may extend into the weekend . . .

Have a Nice Day sf-smile

    Dean

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July 19, 2024
9:16 am
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Suddenly having a paper copy/offline copy sounds a a great idea.

July 19, 2024
11:44 am
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It's tedious but every month I download all statements where I have material amounts and store them on 2 usb's. Not sure it'll help if the web ever is unable to get back up but it's the best I can think of without printing off all sorts of stuff every month.

Our civilization hangs by a thread, as long as trucks can keep coming to refill our grocery stores at least we won't start eating each other.

July 19, 2024
12:46 pm
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We went to The Bay last evening. Escalator not working. Elevator not working. When we went to make our purchases, they said "cash only". Fortunately it was a relatively small purchase and we had enough cash.

Needed some cash today. Phoned CIBC to check if ATMs working. A supervisor said she'd never heard of any outage!

Vacationing friends due home tonight from Newfoundland to Toronto. Stranded at airport.

These are, in the scheme of things, only minor inconveniences that won't last long, but they are a sign of what can and will happen - again and bigger.

Let this be a warning for those who advocate a cashless society.

I keep paper records of everything that might ever matter. It amounts to about 3 boxes, and some could now no doubt be culled. That's not such a big burden.. compared to all the other stuff one accumulates.

July 19, 2024
1:25 pm
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Bill, USB stick use bottom of the barrel NAND flash chip. Is best to buy a cheap (but name brand) SATA SSD instead, your info will be safer.

July 19, 2024
2:00 pm
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We survived Y2K.
We survived the Northeast blackout of 2003.

We will survive botched Windows update.

July 19, 2024
3:13 pm
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Jon, I keep usbs hidden in a locked cabinet but thank you for the suggestion.

July 19, 2024
4:50 pm
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Bill, I am not talking about theft, I am talking about the USB drive turns into brick because its memory chips kick the bucket.

July 20, 2024
1:22 am
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To be fair, this isn't a Microsoft problem, but a Crowdstrike update failure.

I hate it when newsfeeds refer to something like this as a "glitch." A Glitch is something inexplicable, non-repeatable and transient. Something that knocks out a whole class of systems repeatably and persistently is a bug, a failure, an error or a screwup. In no way a glitch.

Note that Linux and other Unix-based systems like MacOS were not affected; not because they are safer, but because the Crowdstrike engineers who blew the Windows version's update didn't do the same with those other systems.

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July 20, 2024
4:29 am
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RetirEd said
Note that Linux and other Unix-based systems like MacOS were not affected; not because they are safer, but because the Crowdstrike engineers ... didn't do the same with those other systems.  

Windows 3.1 was not affected, too, and for same reason.

Surprising as it could be, Southwest Airline must be using that version of Windows, their flights aren't impacted.

To be fair, this isn't a Microsoft problem, but a Crowdstrike update failure.

It is both. Considering type of software that failed and impact on Windows its failure caused.

July 20, 2024
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Jon said
Suddenly having a paper copy/offline copy sounds a a great idea.  

What does one do with offline copies other than for historical/personal record? Do you not download all PDFs of FI statements every month and have a backup copy in the cloud or a thumb drive as a good record keeping practice?

Other than being stuck at an airport when traveling, what are the real issues with a ~24 hour net/computer outage? It is not life threatening like being on the front line in Ukraine these days.

July 20, 2024
8:47 am
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Thanks again, Jon, I'll keep that in mind. My USBs are 12 years old or more and still working fine, I'm assuming they won't both die at exactly the same time.

July 20, 2024
9:42 am
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Meanwhile, back at the ranch . . .

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I'm guessing some Heads are going to Roll for this !

    Dean

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July 21, 2024
1:24 pm
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Alexandre: quite true. My Windows 3.1 system still works just fine. But it has no internet connection.

If Southwest Airlines weren't affected, it was probable that they do not use Crowdstrike for network protection. There are other options on the market.

That's why I don't blame Microsoft for this one.

Sidenote: Larger-capacity USB memory drives are believed to be less reliable than smaller ones. See:

See http://www.theregister.com/202.....sb_sticks/

RetirEd

July 21, 2024
2:51 pm
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Yet another reason ... to keep Backup Copies elsewhere. sf-smile

    Dean

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