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February 21, 2025
6:11 pm
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usephrase said
@CAD,
How many days your TextNow phone number keeps alive? 

I cannot say as I keep it alive every Sunday.

As for Fongo, I got an email to USE it or LOSE it and somewhere in the email they mentioned 60 days before number is gone.
Better to keep it alive every week the to push your luck 🙂

February 21, 2025
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CAD said

Yes, I use that. It will show Origins of number you ported/transferred to provider #1, then maybe to provider #2, etc.
My number appears as Bell land line even it was transferred to my ISP providing me with VOIP.  

That site will only show what carrier it was assigned to. Porting to another carrier will never show.

February 21, 2025
6:56 pm
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CAD said

I cannot say as I keep it alive every Sunday.

As for Fongo, I got an email to USE it or LOSE it and somewhere in the email they mentioned 60 days before number is gone.
Better to keep it alive every week the to push your luck 🙂  

Thanks, I will make a call weekly, now I make a call every day because their website does not tell exactly how many days, they say to make a call for a few days.

I am sure something wrong, TextNow can not receive SMS text from banks, I tried 2 banks. But I use my TextNow number to send text messages to my textnow phone number, always received texts from its own number. I guess that TextNow SMS network does not connect to some of GSM/CDMA or certain networks, TextNow has no problem to send a text to its SMS network.

I used my Textnow to call my home phone number, most of times, failed to go through to leave a voice message on my home. Textnow called banks, always worked. Fongo never had problems to make or receive calls.

February 22, 2025
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usephrase said
I am sure something wrong, TextNow can not receive SMS text from banks, I tried 2 banks.

I believe some companies like banks do recognize app voip numbers as Not being real mobile number and will not send 2FA to it due to security reasons.

February 22, 2025
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CAD said
I believe some companies like banks do recognize app voip numbers as Not being real mobile number and will not send 2FA to it due to security reasons.  

RBC website information:
Compatible Canadian Carriers 
Aliant Mobility
Bell Mobility
Fido
MTS
NorthernTel Mobility
Rogers Wireless
SaskTel Mobility
Télébec Mobilité
TELUS Mobility
Vidéotron
Virgin Mobile Canada
Freedom Mobile

I do not think the SMS system in bank is smarter enough to check the receiver's phone number, because checking it will use much resource ( CPU, memory, database...). The SMS system in bank connects to certain Compatible GSM/CDMA Carriers, I think RBC should test if compatible or not then make sure RBC SMS can send to any of big mobile network providers.

TextNow SMS network is either not compatible or for cost saving, they did not work with banks to receive SMS from banks.

February 22, 2025
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usephrase said
I do not think the SMS system in bank is smarter enough to check the receiver's phone number, because checking it will use much resource ( CPU, memory, database...). 

Great explanation. Thank you.
My TextNow number is provided by Iristel Inc. for Toronto area.

As for your list, you mentioned Fido and Rogers. Fido is owned by Rog.
Telus owns Public Mobile and Koodo. As these 2 are not mentioned does it mean RBC cannot send SMS to those numbers?

February 22, 2025
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CAD said
My TextNow number is provided by Iristel Inc. for Toronto area.

As for your list, you mentioned Fido and Rogers. Fido is owned by Rog.
Telus owns Public Mobile and Koodo. As these 2 are not mentioned does it mean RBC cannot send SMS to those numbers?  

I do not know the details, my previous post was copied from RBC website.
RBC website says "Compatible Canadian Carriers", "Compatible USA Carriers". You can go to the website, I think RBC should list all carriers their SMS system connected to.

By the way, your information seems like TextNow uses Iristel's DID ( phone numbers). Textnow provides free service, it makes sense Textnow does not support some features. If Carrier A connects to another Carrier B's network, both carriers have agreement about how much fee they pay to each other.

February 22, 2025
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Don't you love it when someone has a solution that works for them, then expect that it should suit everyone else too? And if you do not agree or dare have a different opinion, they look down on you?

February 22, 2025
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Don't you love it when someone has a solution that works for them, then expect that it should suit everyone else too? And if you do not agree or dare have a different opinion, they look down on you?  

Since I was the last to respond to you, I'll take this as directed at my post (with you not having the balls to say so).

How on earth you take my suggestion as a comedown is beyond me. I was merely pointing out how cell phone/watch technology can accomplish what you desire and more. You don't have to use it - no one is making you or said you have to or said it suits you. It was an alternative to running to a landline phone every time it rings (which I know something about since I have one).

Yes, I love it when someone points out something that works for them and I can consider it for my situation.

February 22, 2025
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I also use VoIP in combination with a cell phone. I like having 2 different methods of connectivity for redundancy, as both methods have had outages, although infrequent and short.

I only give close contacts my cell number, everyone else gets the VoIP.ms number as I can filter calls through their myriad of call treatment options. It is a learning curve to set it all up, but the amount of customizability for ~ $3-4/month is incredible. I also recommend getting an IP phone rather than hooking up a landline phone to an ATA as it just seems to work better.

My residence has had fibre available since 2016, so if I signed up to get home phone service through them, it would no longer be copper line to their central office, it would just be their managed VoIP over fibre internet. They want $35 per month for this, plus more for call features and long distance, which is crazy.

February 22, 2025
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Never mind that I suspect those 'landline' rates are not free Canada wide dialing. It is archaic in current times to think there are LD charges within Canada.

February 23, 2025
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Wrayzor: And then you have to buy a notoriously-short-lived smartwatch and keep IT charged?

Mobile phone battery life is very variable with regard to make, model, usage and age. At least those with a power jack can mostly be used wired to charge. But those with only wireless charging face the prospect of using their phone while close to a device emitting very strong RF. Unless they sit across from the room from the phone and grab it and run away from the charger every now and then.

AltaRed: It may be wishful thinking to hope long distance charges are obsolete, but it ain't reality.

COIN:
Q1. If your phone plugs into a wall box that has an AC power connection, you have a digital phone. If it uses a standard wall box and works with power out, you have a wired phone. (IP pones, technically, are land lines like analog ones too, so I avoid the ambiguous term "land line".)

Usually, a digital phone will use a home's local power, so if you pull the main fuse or breaker, an IP phone should die (unless it has a backup unit).

Q2. Huh? Same question?

C1: An analog wired phone is much more difficult to hack, usually requiring access to physical wires or co-operation of the phone provider with law enforcement. Anything running over the internet is vulnerable to attacks from all over the world.

But let's be clear - law enforcement and evil hackers still have a lot of ways to access ANY phone, and ignore laws with abandon.

Q3: I don't know where you are, but phone books are largely a dead species. Cold calling scum are buying your info from data brokers, or other merchants who want to make a buck off you. These are usually live callers, so you can practise your delaying or cursing talents if you have the time and inclination.

Get on the Do Not Call lists if you're not already. If you get cold sales calls (other than sleazy charities and publishers, who are exempt), ask eagerly for their corporate name and phone number. Then tell them they are breaking the law and you are reporting them to the DoNotCall authorities, where they may be held liable for up to a megabuck in fines. Usually gets a hangup but scares them a bit. And make sure you report them, too, as it takes more than a few complaints to trigger action.

I find the worst offenders are realtors and other real-estate pimps. And they know they are offending, as they ask why I want their info when I do, so I have to pretend to be interested.

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February 23, 2025
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Every cellphone can be charged with a wire, wireless charging is an option.

My Redmi smart watch costs $100ish, and the battery last about a week. That's the reason I refuse to pay $600 for the apple watch that needs to be charged daily, even tho the Apple watch has more feature.
Most smart watch battery will last a few days, the Apple is the exception, NOT the norm.
And my watch allows me to check msg, whatsapp, make phone calls etc. And I can use it to track work out parameters, such as calories, heart rate etc. What's not to like in a smart watch ??

February 23, 2025
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RetirEd said
Wrayzor: And then you have to buy a notoriously-short-lived smartwatch and keep IT charged?
 

Maybe it's a gift? Any way acquired, yes, it needs to be charged. That works well overnight.

savemoresaveoften said
What's not to like in a smart watch ??  

Ditto. It can't replace a landline (to stay on topic), but you've pointed out that it has many features. It's not free and requires charging and needs periodic replacement. Just like most modern technology.

February 23, 2025
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canada411.ca is today's phone book for landlines, far as I know.

February 23, 2025
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I thought phone books were a part of history, but one actually showed up from the telco in the mailbox the other day. It is just the size of a magazine now, and there are no white pages anymore, just the blue listings, and yellow pages which are mainly just ads now rather than listings. So it is more of a booklet of ads rather than a directory now.

February 23, 2025
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Wrayzor said

Since I was the last to respond to you, I'll take this as directed at my post (with you not having the balls to say so).

How on earth you take my suggestion as a comedown is beyond me. I was merely pointing out how cell phone/watch technology can accomplish what you desire and more. You don't have to use it - no one is making you or said you have to or said it suits you. It was an alternative to running to a landline phone every time it rings (which I know something about since I have one).

Yes, I love it when someone points out something that works for them and I can consider it for my situation.  

Actually, no, this was not directed at you at all... not sure why you took it personally, especially since your last post is #32 and my reply is #48.

And I have no issues with people sharing their ideas that work for them.

That said, you also missed the message I stated... you completely ignored the part that says, "... then expect that it should suit everyone else too? And if you do not agree or dare have a different opinion, they look down on you?"

Keep my comments in context.

February 23, 2025
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everhopeful said
I also use VoIP in combination with a cell phone. I like having 2 different methods of connectivity for redundancy, as both methods have had outages, although infrequent and short.

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My residence has had fibre available since 2016, so if I signed up to get home phone service through them, it would no longer be copper line to their central office, it would just be their managed VoIP over fibre internet. They want $35 per month for this, plus more for call features and long distance, which is crazy.  

Another good reason to have a landline, IP or copper. My experience is that copper is the most reliable, and least hackable. Of course, it comes at a cost, because providers are trying hard to get people off legacy systems, and trying to consolidate their solutions.

Aside from cost to them, internet based solutions are far easier to manage for them.

February 24, 2025
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savemoresaveoften: Reviewing my post, I see I was less than clear in separating the two paragraphs. When I spoke of "a notoriously-short-lived smartwatch," I was citing the fact that they so often fail and are almost impossible and unaffordable to repair. They are often referred to in the industry as "disposable technology."

The short charge life of Apple toys is a separate issue.

$100 is a better deal than the Apple status symbols, for sure. Does the Redmi require linking to a phone, or any particular type of phone?

Bill: I've wondered for years about canada411's origins. Their website uses a fingers-doing-the-walking logo but is less forthcoming about whether there's any connection to the old Yellow Pages. They collect their information from many sources, and the quality and timeliness is variable, mostly at the whim of phone providers.

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February 24, 2025
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Yeah any decent smart watch you want to link it to a phone to utilize all its functions for sure to utilize functions like checking text, voice calling etc. Any relatively current smart phone will do. Obv no burner phones lol

To me all modern tech "toys" are disposable technology, be it smart watch, cell phones, laptop. etc. they are meant to be replaced as newer / better technology comes out. I am not married to old technology as soon as it 'becomes old' 🙂

Tech is something to improve my quality of life, be it to make things easier, more convenient, etc etc. its worth spending $ to improve ones quality of life, isn't it ?

To give u an example, I am currently playing around with an app on the iphone that utilizes its high speed camera capability for golf swing analysis. It uses the ipad and iphone together to "film" and analyze your golf swing. It's a toy but it's fun that money CAN buy 🙂

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