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September 25, 2014
3:09 am
Jack Manning
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Peter, my time is wasted here and please delete all my posts as I do not want to spend hours doing this as I already wasted weeks writing posts.

This forum is a left leaning, liberal forum and don't say it is not because it is with most of the comments are leaning in that direction. I wish you mentioned this to new members so others will not waste their time too.

I am tired of people taking my money and my family's money and telling it is for our own good. This is B.S., censored because I can't say.......

I don't want to be treated as an idiot from strangers that have no idea what they are talking about. I have no idea why you have this forum but is mostly likely to make money or is a hobby of yours.

Things are going to get worse for our society so there is no point of even explaining anything to a bunch of strangers that believe in something that in the end is worthless. That is us. We are just a bunch of slaves and technology will speed up this process.

Peter, don't apologize to me or tell me you are sorry about me leaving. It is just you being polite and you don't even know me so save your words.

Continued success to you Peter but in the end it will be taken from all of us and I don't mean by us all dying someday.

Snicker and laugh all you want but the joke is on all us because people actually think that those in charge care about any of us.

September 25, 2014
6:55 am
Peter
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Note: I've disabled Jack Manning's account.

September 25, 2014
1:27 pm
Jon
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Peter, I hope the suspension on Jacks account is only temporary, because if we suspend people simply because they say something the mass don't like it, sooner or later, that will happen to ourselves. I just want him to calm down for the moment so we can engage in reasonable conversation again.

September 25, 2014
4:32 pm
Rick J
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Peter, you did not delete this guy's posts. It seems to me that you don't want to seem like a bad person but by you leaving this person's posts, you are accepting his comments. It makes no sense.

Please delete this person's posts as it is not your information. It belongs to Jack Manning. You are doing exactly what he is talking about in the above posts.

Jon, if this person does not want to discuss and participate on this forum because it is meaningless for this person then why do you care what happens to this person's account.

It looks like he wants to be nowhere near people that are totally against his views.

September 25, 2014
5:27 pm
AltaRed
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Since I don't spend much time here reading threads and posts, I thus have no comments about JM specifically. Generally most forums have certain rules/policy about what is not appropriate to post, how a site is moderated, and that the site's owners and moderators have the right to do pretty much what they want with posted material, i.e. once someone posts here, that post is in generally in public domain and is thereafter owned by the site's owners.

Unless a post breaks the 'rules' and needs to be deleted, e.g. libel, copyright, illegal, etc., posts probably should never be deleted. Search engines (bots) have captured them anyway.

I don't see any rules or disclaimers for this site but perhaps I am not looking in the right places. Am I missing something?

September 25, 2014
7:24 pm
Rick J
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AltaRed, this so called illusion that we live in called democracy is a joke. Posting on forums and websites makes it look like we freedoms but the reality is we are not free.

Most people act civilly because they are scared of the police, military or from some other authority. We are fooling ourselves if we think that the good guys are in charge. It is a joke what our society and economy has become.

September 25, 2014
7:31 pm
Rick J
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Peter, delete all of Jack Manning's posts because if Jack's account is no longer active then it is unfair that he can only read comments but will not be writing a response to them.

I don't know why people have to keep making comments at the expense that someone can't defend themselves anymore.

September 25, 2014
7:33 pm
Rick J
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Peter, why are not available to answer my questions?

September 25, 2014
7:49 pm
Loonie
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Perhaps Peter will choose to comment on this. Perhaps he will choose to delete my post. He is free to do whatever he deems appropriate.
I just want to inform people that, between what are now posts #1 and #2, this thread originally included several additional posts from Jack, and one from me. The purpose of the one from me was simply to preserve Jack's first post because he had developed the habit overnight of posting things and then deleting them within an hour or so. I wanted people to know what he'd said, at least in the original post.
Peter has deleted these posts using his own best judgment because of the nature of their content. These posts occurred overnight and early in the morning, and I may have been the only other person who read them before they were deleted.
Thus, what you see is not originally what was there. I believe that Peter has suspended the account because of what was there. He is doing his job by trying to maintain a site that does not tolerate bullying, harassment, or personal attacks, and I support his decision 100%.
My advice, for what it's worth, is "let it go". Let's use our time to deal with issues that can help us with our financial situation.sf-smile

September 25, 2014
8:08 pm
Peter
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Sorry everybody for this situation. I've temporarily disabled any new user registrations until I can sort through all the posts.

October 4, 2014
7:49 am
Rick
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Rick J said

Peter, delete all of Jack Manning's posts because if Jack's account is no longer active then it is unfair that he can only read comments but will not be writing a response to them.

I don't know why people have to keep making comments at the expense that someone can't defend themselves anymore.

Don't think it is up to Peter to have to delete all Jack's posts. In fact, I think they should stay. After the SD situation, it sucks going back thru posts only to find incomplete discussions because most of his posts/replies are gone. This is a public forum people, if you don't want it viewed forever, don't post it.

October 9, 2014
12:44 am
martin14
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Rick said

Rick J said

Peter, delete all of Jack Manning's posts because if Jack's account is no longer active then it is unfair that he can only read comments but will not be writing a response to them.

I don't know why people have to keep making comments at the expense that someone can't defend themselves anymore.

Don't think it is up to Peter to have to delete all Jack's posts. In fact, I think they should stay. After the SD situation, it sucks going back thru posts only to find incomplete discussions because most of his posts/replies are gone. This is a public forum people, if you don't want it viewed forever, don't post it.

I agree, if Jack can't be bothered to delete his own stuff, he obviously doesn't care about it staying.
Also agree, if you can't live with it forever, then don't post it.

October 13, 2014
12:44 pm
Peter
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I have re-opened registration. I have also posted some long overdue rules and etiquette based on what has worked on this other forum.

I've also made a small change to the permissions on the forum -- you can only edit your own post until there has been a reply to that post. After that, please let me know if you'd like to retroactively edit any of your own posts.

Thanks everybody!

October 16, 2014
4:52 pm
JustMe
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Not following what is this all about, just suggestion to add option to 'ignore' forum member. Look at the http://www.torontogasprices.com/ - if you do not like what somebody writes, just click 'ignore' and all his/her post become invisible to you. Wasting keyboard arguing is just that - waste.

January 10, 2015
10:41 am
Peter
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I am sorry to say that I have suspended Greg Franklin's account as I have discovered that he is the same person as Jack Manning. Jack Manning was already banned from this forum.

January 10, 2015
11:13 am
Chris Kay
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Peter, I had to register under this other name to tell you and others on this forum that I am not Jack Manning. I am Greg Franklin.

I have no idea who is Jack Manning or why you banned me as I did nothing wrong. I hope all other people on this forum realize how unfair and incorrect this is.

Peter or who is in charge can ban you like that for what. Someone told him that I am someone I am not.

If you don't want someone on your forum, Peter, then just tell them but don't lie by saying I am someone who you don't like or was banned.

Why don't you make someone's account have a timeline and make us register over and over. You have some kind of control issues man.

I have a cousin that works in the CRTC and will be speaking to him. I hope you know what you are doing Peter!sf-frown

January 10, 2015
3:37 pm
GS1
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Damn! I've been away from the forums and seem to have missed all this fun. sf-surprised

GS

January 10, 2015
3:40 pm
NorthernRaven
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Not speaking as a moderator (which title was mainly a way for me to help Peter kill spam awhile back), but I had always sort of assumed that "Greg Franklin" was "Jack Manning", and wasn't there a "SD2013"? There seemed to be someone with a fairly distinct conversational style and presentation of extreme detail, unlikely to be duplicated among the small pool of people who wandered into this forum.

Personally it felt like a (gradually improving, but still awkward and somewhat windy) neural net robot was participating in the forums... :)

I have no idea what transgressions this/these accounts committed for Peter to bounce them, but I'm pretty sure he lives in no fear from the CRTC! Now, if the cousin worked for the 'Ndrangheta... :)

January 10, 2015
10:33 pm
Jon
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We should not process the attitude of "assume guilty" for any individual because nobody want to be falsely accuse of anything. Especially we cannot pin point anyone to the precision of individual level on the internet.

"A block of words" is indeed prohibiting for others to participate in conversation, but that does not mean this person shall be ejected as freedom of speech prevail in our society. Instead, we shall gave him direction to make our participation in the forum more comfortable.

I also want to ask Peter what rule have you use from the rule book you draft previously to make this decision as I question is this action against Greg just?

January 11, 2015
6:30 am
Bill
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Thanks, Peter. It's stating the obvious to say censorship is wrong but, GEE-EEZ, this guy WAS obnoxious and condescending, constantly giving us useless advice in the "be careful" vein as if we were children. And now he resorts to threats (I wouldn't worry about the CRTC, whoever they are). Anybody who posts about as much as the rest of us combined needs to get a life anyway, so you're probably doing him a favour - though I expect he'll be back in other guises, as it's clear he has some needs. On the other hand, if it comes to it, don't put yourself at any "risk" - online forums are full of jerks, that's just the deal.

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