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cashing rrsp with a low interest rate enviroment
July 21, 2012
9:11 am
doc
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with interest rates on rrsps at very low rates, is it just better to cash them in? Reason being you are locked in and your not makeing any real money on your interest anyways, and it seems like interest rates are going down to zero from what i can see.

July 21, 2012
10:19 am
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doc said:

with interest rates on rrsps at very low rates, is it just better to cash them in? Reason being you are locked in and your not makeing any real money on your interest anyways, and it seems like interest rates are going down to zero from what i can see.

Cash them in?
and
Reinvest in another product in your RRSP?
or
Pay income tax to cash them in and do what with the proceeds?

July 21, 2012
2:01 pm
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cash them in and put them into a cash account liquad

July 23, 2012
5:48 am
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The answer truly lies in your financial situation --- namely, how much you hold in RSP balances and what your marginal tax rate?

Remember even a GIC with 3.25% interest rate in your RSP is generating a tax deferred return of the same value --- meaning you pay no tax until you begin withdrawing on it. Also remember that the full amount of your disposed RSP must be taken as income the year in-which it is cashed-out. This could also create additional tax consequences in the shorter-term.

Me...I keep everything I can tax deferred from our government.

July 25, 2012
10:06 am
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problem is, when u die the goverment takes half in taxes so what did u really gain

July 25, 2012
5:34 pm
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This doesn't make any sense! If you take your cash out of RRSPs, you pay tax and then face the problem of where to re-invest your money. If you have high-interest debt and are not in the highest tax bracket, certainly you might (do the math) consider using it for that.

First, max out your TFSA before considering RRSPs. In today's tax environment, the income tax rates are lower and you'll save less when contributing. On the other hand, you don't want a lot of RRSP income when you retire because it appears on income and may cost you part or all of your pension, medical, program access or rent subsidy benefits.

If you do withdrawals, never allow one withdrawal to be for more than $4,999.99 - that way your tax witholding will be only 10%. If you expect to pay less than that in tax, do it near the end of the year, so you can reclaim that money on your tax return early in the year. If you will have to pay tax at a marginal rate HIGHER than 10%, though, take it out at the START of the year so you will have an interest-free year with the difference in your pocket.

IN EITHER CASE, MAKE SURE YOU WILL HAVE CASH TO PAY THE TAXES WHEN THEY ARE DUE!

Because RRSP withdrawals almost always incur fees and they tend to sit for long terms, financial institutions often offer better RRSP rates than in non-registered investments. Think about that before chasing rates.

If you have some years where you are unemployed or a student, you may be able to take advantage to get cash out of your RRSP at low tax rates and not lose income-tested retirement benefits.

Almost nothing it worth investing in if you have any high-interest debt; pay that first.
ED BEAR

July 26, 2012
10:50 am
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doc said:

problem is, when u die the goverment takes half in taxes so what did u really gain

How do you figure that???? You need some professional help from an accountant.

August 1, 2012
1:10 pm
Stan
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I am about to convert my RRSP; and my objective will be to withdraw everything as quickly as possible, without:

1. Attracting a highter tax bracket; and without

2. Attracting Old Age Security "claw back".

3. Check out spousal pension-splitting provisions, if that applies.

On edit: Oh! I almost forgot: the new surtax on those with income over $250,000. grin

August 1, 2012
3:12 pm
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Stan said:

I am about to convert my RRSP; and my objective will be to withdraw everything as quickly as possible, without:

1. Attracting a highter tax bracket; and without

2. Attracting Old Age Security "claw back".

3. Check out spousal pension-splitting provisions, if that applies.

On edit: Oh! I almost forgot: the new surtax on those with income over $250,000. grin

Consider pulling out 5000 per year and it will have 10% tax withheld and higher if you take out more. Put the 4500 into a TFSA of your choice and it is likely to return to the value in 4 to 5 years...although you loose growth for that 5 years if left in an RRSP. You put your self in a NON taxable arrangement, no claw backs, no impact on any income qualified programs. If you do your own income tax you can figure out what income tax you actually paid for the withdrawal from an RRSP. I have begun this program and when I see what it is costing me, tax wise, I may look at expanding to both my wife and I to see how income splitting would impact on us both withdrawing 5000 each. My financial adviser was surprised when I asked him what the impact of doing this would be...that the results were actually better than an RRSP once you recouped the initial 10% taxation. Keep in mind that taxation on lager withdrawal of an RRSP is as follows. Scroll down...

http://www.rbcroyalbank.com/pr.....rules.html

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