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People's Trust Savings -- anyone have an account with?
March 17, 2009
3:13 pm
Brad Nailer
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How many of you have opened accounts with People's Trust Financial based in Vancouver?

What is your experience with People's Trust?

I understand P.T. is CDIC certified.

Already read James' report, very good.

Thanks a bunch.
-Brad

PS-->A big THUMBS DOWN to PC Financial. I've been a loyal customer since they started and now their Interest Plus (misnomer) account has a lower rate than their chequing account.

March 17, 2009
4:18 pm
Roc
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I've got an account with People's Trust earning me a whopping 3.60%!!!!They are by far the highest paying Bank/Trust company out there. I have about $300,000.00 invested there and they paid me $8,500 in interest for 2008. Sending money over to People's could take up to 9 days(Hold Period), transferring money from your People's account to your home bank takes only 2 days.

There are 2 downsides to People's to consider before opening an account with them. One is that you can't view your account online, you get a monthly statement. The second problem is they only insure you for $100,000, some credit unions in Manitoba insure you for 100% of your account balance.

I'm taking a huge risk with $300,000.00 there, but if you look at their balance sheet for 2007, they made a NET profit of $7,500,000. Their 2008 balance sheet will be posted on their website next week, so you can check it out then.

To Summarize, if you want to make some excellent money, then go with People's Trust, they've been around for over 20 years and look strong financially. If you don't mind calling them for money transfers, getting statements by mail, being insured for only $100,000...... Then People's Trust is where you should stash your cash!!!!

Roc

March 17, 2009
4:24 pm
Brad Nailer
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Thanks Roc!

March 19, 2009
5:11 am
Mike
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Roc, I know you really like that 3.6%, but as you state:

"I'm taking a huge risk with $300,000.00 there"

you should consider just the $100k CDIC limit, if you lost $200k you wouldn't be happy and the extra 2% (which is great) isn't worth the Risk vs Reward if you think it's a huge risk...

Mike

March 19, 2009
5:12 am
Mike
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Admin --

Can you consider adding People's Trust to the Comparison Chart in the future please? They are offering the highest rates right now and would be something interesting to follow.

Mike

March 19, 2009
12:08 pm
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Mike said:

Admin --

Can you consider adding People's Trust to the Comparison Chart in the future please?


In the future? Like in a year? I have a better idea: add it now. And drop PC Financial while you're at it. PCF is middle of the pack now; in fact, it's ranked #19.

March 19, 2009
1:07 pm
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jeremywong said:

Mike said:


Admin --

I initially started with PCFinancial in 2003. The reason a No Fee Bank account. FREE duplicate cheques as well. A lot has changed in 6 years. I started using ING DIRECT in 2000 after the mortgage disappeared. Since that time every Tom, Dick and Harry has setep something to compete with ING DIRECT. The major backs started competing in the last 2-3 years with competive savings account. Royal Bank, Scotia Bank, Bank of Montreal to name a few that I know. HSBC, ICICIBank, Canadian Tire as well. The major banks pay a 1/4% lower than many virtual banks. All that I tested are good. Since I am happy with ING DIRECT I will not change. If I get $100,000 then I would start depositing elsewhere. I like my savings account where I can CONTROL it and not with the major backs that pay 1/4% lower rate.

Can you consider adding People's Trust to the Comparison Chart in the future please?



In the future? Like in a year? I have a better idea: add it now. And drop PC Financial while you're at it. PCF is middle of the pack now; in fact, it's ranked #19.


March 20, 2009
2:22 am
Peter
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I have now added Peoples Trust to the chart. Despite its limited account options, this site's visitors have testified about its legitimacy and consistently higher rates.

I'm going to keep PC Financial on the chart for now, if only to show its history as slipping from one of the higher rates 1+ years ago to one of the lower rates now.

March 20, 2009
7:14 am
Mike
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Good decision. Keep PC Financial up there. In 1998, I think they were the first (or one of the very first) to start the High Interest Savings account with no fees.

I'm disapointed with PC interest rates, I'm disapointed in their customer service, but happy with the no fees and online account options.

It will be interesting to follow Peoples Trust. For me, as the banks are "risky" today and a Trust more so, I'd keep upto the CDIC limit only in there and enjoy the highest rates.

Mike

March 20, 2009
6:29 pm
Yi Wen Kuo
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PC Financial's rate drop to 1.65% for their Plus account, in conjunction with their chequing account able to earn 2% if balance is over $25,000.00 have prompted me to move most of my savings to Peoples Trust. If everyone did this, I wonder what would PCF do?

March 20, 2009
11:49 pm
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Roc said:

I'm taking a huge risk with $300,000.00 there...


I don't think that's a huge risk. As risks go, Peoples Trust is a pretty good risk. But you're getting a risk-free return for a risk that's similar to a corporate bond. American Express Canada has a bond that matures in May 2011 yielding 6%. I don't think Amex is riskier than Peoples Trust. That's the kind of interest you should get for the uninsured portion of your money.

March 22, 2009
11:46 am
Craig
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A lot of people are dumping on PC Financial, but I think they are just the first to drop their rates below the psychological 2% mark. The other banks will not be far behind. If you need evidence of this, take a look at ING's GIC rates. Their 1 year GIC pays out at 1.50%. Their short-term GICs (less than one year) all pay out at 0.75%. That's right, less than one percent. Their savings account still pays at 2.00%, but that's going to change soon. GIC rates give you insight into what any given bank thinks is going to happen in the future. I acknowledge that ING hasn't exactly been the savings rate leader for the past few years, but if you check out the other online banks, you'll see a similar trend.

March 23, 2009
7:18 pm
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Brad Nailer said:

Thanks Roc!


FOR ALL THOSE WITH DEPOSITS AT A BC CREDIT UNION: (including Peoples Trust)
LAST FALL THE BC. GOVERNMENT BROUGHT IN A NO CEILING DEPOSIT INSURANCE FOR ALL PROVINCIALLY LICENCED CREDIT UNIONS. I AM NOT SURE FOR HOW LONG, BUT AT LEAST FOR 2-3 YEARS, THIs WILL STAND.

CALL ANY CREDIT UNION IN BC FOR EXACT DETAILS.

SANDOR

Edit by admin: sandor has messaged me to let me know that Peoples Trust is actually not a credit union and therefore only the $100,000 CDIC limit applies.

March 24, 2009
12:30 am
BL
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sandor said:

FOR ALL THOSE WITH DEPOSITS AT A BC CREDIT UNION: (including Peoples Trust)
LAST FALL THE BC. GOVERNMENT BROUGHT IN A NO CEILING DEPOSIT INSURANCE FOR ALL PROVINCIALLY LICENCED CREDIT UNIONS. I AM NOT SURE FOR HOW LONG, BUT AT LEAST FOR 2-3 YEARS, THIs WILL STAND.


CALL ANY CREDIT UNION IN BC FOR EXACT DETAILS.


SANDOR


Unfortunately, Peoples Trust is not a credit union. Nor is it provincially regulated. They are a CDIC member, however. Therefore, deposits are only insured up to the standard $100,000.
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This no ceiling deposit insurance for credit unions is nothing new. Other provinces have had this legislation for some time and it is only now that BC is finally catching up with the rest of Canada.
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Credit unions in BC have actually insured themselves/each other for many years. The recent announcement by the BC Liberal party is basically just political window dressing to take credit for what has essentially always been and to make it seem as if they are doing something for the economy.

May 21, 2009
1:22 pm
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I'd recommend avoiding People's Trust. They're a U.S. company with Customer Disservice reps in India and a figurehead presence in Canada. Which may not be an issue for you, but if you ever need customer service from them, I promise you you'll have issues.

I have a MasterCard from them and managed to lose it in a mall. Mall security found it before anyone else did and called it in, so People's Trust cancelled it. And left it at that. They waited for me to figure it out and call in to report it, and then said they'd mail out a new one. I waited two weeks - no card. Called back (15 minute call) and found out they wanted me to fax in a utility bill to prove my address. When were they going to tell me that? How long would they have let me wait? I faxed it that day and called back to confirm. They confirmed and said they'd mail the card. Two more weeks, no card. Called again (20 mintes this time) and found out they still didn't mail it out. Refused to courier it, refused to give me my new card number so I can use it, refused to take any responsibility whatsoever for their failures. What kind of customer service is that? What kind of attitude is that for any company to have? I tried to shame them into doing something to help make up for their errors, and they offered to courier my card - and charge me $49. WTF? I think I'll cancel this card AND file a complaint with the BBB.

July 25, 2010
8:51 pm
mel
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I agree that they have terrible customer service. The electronic fund transfer by e-mail is really smooth sailing but anything more complicated then that , especially if it involves needing them to do something for you and having to contact them over the phone, you have to be patient and motivated.

July 30, 2010
9:23 pm
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mel said:

I agree that they have terrible customer service. The electronic fund transfer by e-mail is really smooth sailing but anything more complicated then that , especially if it involves needing them to do something for you and having to contact them over the phone, you have to be patient and motivated.


When mel refers to "anything more complicated then that", without providing so much as a modicum of information as to what was she is talking about, I would tend to regard that posting as non sequitur.

There has never been a system devised so simple and fool-proof, that at least someone can manage to screw it up!

I have been dealing with Peoples Trust for years, without experiencing so much as a minor hiccup. Like . . . how complicated can it be?? Send them a cheque to make a deposit; and write a cheque to make a withdrawl! It's not all that complicated!!

With their advantageous rates, we are now in the process of setting up a joint account, which extends the CDIC $$$ limit to $300,000 for a couple.

Personally, I couldn't be more pleased with Peoples Trust. While offering the best rates in the industry; unlike Ally and Canadian Direct Financial, Peoples offers chequing privelege for transferring $$$.

July 30, 2010
10:18 pm
Doug
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You are sadly mistaken. Canadian Direct Financial, the direct banking division of Canadian Western Bank, offers the KeyDirect Chequing Account as a companion to its KeyRate Savings accounts and GICs. You can even enjoy a free chequing account with a $5000 GIC or so many debit transactions free with minimum $1000 in your chequing account or a GIC.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Ally add a chequing account to their product offerings either this year or next, once they build up their deposit base a bit more. Their U.S. affiliate already offers this. I would also not be surprised to see Ally buy ING Direct.

Cheers,
Doug

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