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PC transfer delay
January 26, 2015
1:32 pm
GMH
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I recently pushed funds (prior to 9:00 a.m. EST) from my Hubert account to my TD account and it was shown as deposited the same day. I also pushed funds (also prior to 9:00 a.m.) to PC Financial and it took 2 days for it to show up. I phoned PC to ask about the discrepancy and was told that PC handles transfers differently since they are an online bank without any branches. I don't quite buy this argument. Anyone else have similar experiences? Is this exclusive to PC? I can understand processing delays, but the funds shouldn't "disappear" for a few days. They should exist in either one account or the other at all times.

February 1, 2015
9:34 pm
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Welcome, GMH! Sorry it took so long for you to get our attention.

I have no personal experience with PC as I have not liked a lot of their fine print in the past.
However, I would agree that it's a poor excuse that doesn't make much sense. I see no difference between ATM and online - unless, of course, your security system isn't very good.

I envision a marketing opportunity for one of the better-run banks or CUs, with slogan, "Sleeping well at night?... Do you know where your money is?"sf-laugh

February 1, 2015
10:30 pm
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PC Financial could be slow in fund transfer really.
PC Financial could be settling funds with its parent CIBC and CIBC settles inter-bank funds transfer with other financial institutions. If by this way, it needs one more day to complete the settlement.

I noticed that, bill payment from PC Financial, it is always takes one more day to reach BC Hydro or other companies.

February 2, 2015
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I have long complained about PC Financial's transfer process. You could not, at my last attempt, initiate a transfer "today". You had to initiate it for "tomorrow".

All the other online banks I use for transfers allow transfer setup for "today" and often the funds arrive "tomorrow".

One needs to decide if the "one extra day hassle" is outweighed by the other benefits of PC Financial.

GS

February 2, 2015
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Thanks for all your input. Just to clarify, though, the transfer was initiated from the Hubert end, not the PCF end. As my transfer to TD shows, Hubert is diligent in transferring the funds on the very same day; so I know for a fact that some division of CIBC/PCF got the funds the same day as well. This indicates that they are using my funds for 2 full days without crediting interest. Although this seems anachronistic, the best way of ensuring you get interest from day one is to deposit a cheque to a PCF ATM.

February 2, 2015
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I suppose one could always go up the ladder of the bank complaints process, as it is obviously not a one-off problem.
Every bank has an official complaint chain. I have sometimes gotten good results with this. Perhaps you can persuade them to change their systems. I would ask for a reimbursement of missing interest and some PC points as compensation for the inconvenience and stress caused by having your money disappear. You should decide in advance how many points you want to ask for. I got about $150 worth of points from another bank once, and I don't think the error was as grievous as having my money disappear. I would think that would be a very alarming situation.

February 2, 2015
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GMH said

Thanks for all your input. Just to clarify, though, the transfer was initiated from the Hubert end, not the PCF end. As my transfer to TD shows, Hubert is diligent in transferring the funds on the very same day; so I know for a fact that some division of CIBC/PCF got the funds the same day as well. This indicates that they are using my funds for 2 full days without crediting interest. Although this seems anachronistic, the best way of ensuring you get interest from day one is to deposit a cheque to a PCF ATM.

The settlement account is the one for clearing funds. Even if it has funds in it, the bank will not loan that to customers, which means it is not using the fund. It is just the way PC Financial clears inter-bank funds.

February 2, 2015
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How do you know, James1900, that they won't loan it out? Just curious. Maybe you have some inside info?
Seems to me that while they may SAY they don't loan it out, how do we know what they really do, unless they are somehow prohibited legally from doing so?
Other banks do provide the interest, that much we do know.

I'm sure the banks are all very aware of whatever the incidence of failed transfers is, so, theoretically, they could loan out the percentage that normally does succeed, which I would expect to be the vast majority.

February 2, 2015
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GMH said

Thanks for all your input. Just to clarify, though, the transfer was initiated from the Hubert end, not the PCF end. As my transfer to TD shows, Hubert is diligent in transferring the funds on the very same day; so I know for a fact that some division of CIBC/PCF got the funds the same day as well. This indicates that they are using my funds for 2 full days without crediting interest. Although this seems anachronistic, the best way of ensuring you get interest from day one is to deposit a cheque to a PCF ATM.

Check the transaction dates in the monthly statement.

With PC Financial, I've noticed that the date of a transaction in the monthly statement is sometimes earlier than the date displayed on their online banking web site. I suspect the date shown in online banking is the date the transaction was posted to the account by their computers. I suspect that sometimes-earlier date, shown in the monthly statement, is the effective date, used for interest calculations.

February 2, 2015
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For what it's worth I've been using e-banking, starting with ING and including PC Financial, right from the beginning. I make a fair number of transfers every month and never have had a single problem. Whether it takes a day or two more, don't really notice or care - probably most people the same. (Though everybody's anal about something, I guess - I don't use banks hq'd in B.C. because I don't want my money where the big quake's coming.) sf-laugh

February 3, 2015
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Just read the title and replying based on that ...

I did a transfer to my Questrade RRSP account from online PC banking yesterday and Ssrprisingly, the payment was received today before noon. I am going to do the same (just to check the transfer time) in the upcoming weeks and report back.

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