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November 24, 2023
3:31 pm
maxifunds
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Hi All,
Been following and coming to this site for a few years now, but just created an account to interact with people as i do have a passion for investing and finding good deals for Savings accounts. Also interested in USD savings and eventually other alternatives as well.

One of my challenges is quite simple, i live in Quebec. Quebec is very limiting as you all know.

Little story: i once called Canadian Tire Bank to ask what is the real reason their product was not offered in Quebec, and going through 3 levels of management, no one was able to give an answer why.

I always assumed it's simply because the Terms and conditions are not available in French, but i have a feeling it's more than that.; And if anyone know the real reasons, do let me know.

Else, i can talk ETFS and a few other other products i am familiar with.
Looking forward to interact with you all.

November 24, 2023
4:20 pm
Loonie
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Quebec has always had much better consumer protection laws than any other province. Many businesses don't want to be subject to that, nor do they often want to admit it.
Also, they would have to provide full complement of French-speaking staff.

November 24, 2023
4:51 pm
AltaRed
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It might boggle the mind how much is different in Quebec. It is almost the same as doing business in another country. It is likely not worth it to have to re-invent itself for a population base of 8 million.

https://www.osler.com/en/resources/cross-border/2017/guide-to-doing-business-in-quebec

November 24, 2023
6:52 pm
Dean
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The two replies above , pretty much sum it up. It's an oxymoron really ... though it's part of Canada, Quebec is a different country.

On a lighter note ... 'Welcome' to the Club, Maxifunds ❗ sf-smile

    Dean

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November 24, 2023
7:03 pm
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I suspect Ridley Scott's new movie "Napoleon" will not have any scenes showing how the Napoleonic Code would come to cause division and grief in the Canadian financial system... 🙂

November 26, 2023
11:39 pm
maxifunds
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Thanks for the welcome Dean.
Great resource Altared
And NorthernRaven, we can get deeper in history but i guess it could have started with Napoleon 🙂

Yeah i guess that`s Canada for you. Provinces can overrule Federal on many things which makes it more like a Federation (Just like the US) , and yes the language thing is annoying to me cause i am perfectly bilingual (polyglot actually).

I been thinking of getting a chalet/cottage in Ontario (30 Minutes away)
Lower taxes, more access to rest of Canada.
Just a bit more context about me.
I'll stop here, don't want to turn anything political/divisive ect.

November 26, 2023
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If it makes you feel better, some Americans have to deal with similar issues with things that are "only valid in the contiguous United States", leaving out Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc. Alaskans sometimes luck out with "continental United States" 🙂

November 27, 2023
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Welcome, Maxifunds. I've dabbled in the stock market longer than I have in fixed income investments, but since the S&P 500's market peak in November 2021 I've been a weekly, if not daily, visitor to this fantastic site while I try to do what one really shouldn't: time the market. 🙂

Once again, welcome!

November 27, 2023
4:30 am
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maxifunds: Canada actually has much tighter federal control than the U.S. in most matters. The U.S. constitution assigns specific powers to the federal government, and all others devolve to the individual states. That's why new-tech stuff gets complicated there, as it was never assigned.

Canada's constitutions (s) assign specific powers to the provinces, and all others default to the feds. Unless the federal government acts, newfangled things stay with them.

Of course, some provincial governments (Quebec, Alberta, and to a lesser extent Ontario and New Brunswick) have been trying to usurp federal powers or declare themselves free of them lately. Pootie on that.

I believe it was Newfoundland's (its name at the time) prime minister Clyde Wells that said charter rights did not protect the federal government, but rather individual Canadians, from provincial overreach. I think this was detailed (long ago, but I did read the book and follow its footnotes) in Deborah Coyne's Roll of the Dice: Working with Clyde Wells during the Meech Lake Accord.

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November 27, 2023
9:37 am
Dean
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maxifunds said

. . .

Yeah i guess that`s Canada for you. Provinces can overrule Federal on many things which makes it more like a Federation (Just like the US), and yes the language thing is annoying to me cause i am perfectly bilingual (polyglot actually).

. . . 

Actually, the correct term for Canada is 'Confederation', and it's not quite like
the USofA.

Though I was born and raised in Canada (and live here now again), my family and I have spent Many years living down in the States (3 different ones). I can attest from lots experience and education down there ... Canada is 'A Very Different' country ... and it's the one I prefer. sf-smile

But that's all a broad subject, to be discussed elsewhere.

Cheers,

    Dean

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November 27, 2023
10:11 am
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In Canada, legal jurisdiction is divided and sometimes shared.

A Schedule I bank has a charter under the federal Bank Act to operate across Canada. But, that doesn't exempt the bank from provincial income taxes and municipal property taxes. That also doesn't exempt the bank from municipal zoning laws that restrict where it can open its branches.

If a province disallows joint tenant ownership of accounts under its provincial property laws, like Quebec does, then the bank cannot offer joint tenant accounts in that province.

It's not really Quebec's civil legal system that is the issue. It's the extra requirements that the provincial govenrment has required from business that operate in the province. Another province could impose those same requirements under common law.

November 28, 2023
4:47 am
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Again, Quebec has long had much better and stricter consumer protection laws than other provinces. Take a look at a typical credit card bill to see some of the differences in their terms and conditions.

Too bad the province is still way behind on human rights.

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November 28, 2023
11:54 pm
maxifunds
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Thanks for all the extra welcome messages.
Loved reading all your comments too.

Enjoy the rest of 2023.

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