7:42 am
January 3, 2013
Hello,
I am trying to make sense of how this works. I plan to do double payments on my accelerated bi-weekly which is allowed with no fines.
I am also allowed to pay up to 15% of the mortgage in an lump-sum. Considering this extras go against the principal, does it make more sense to pay the 15% at the beginning of the year (or whenever it is available or pay it in installments, some % here some % there) vs. paying it all at once at the end of the year?
Why I am asking? Well, if it doesn't reduce the interest once paid at the beginning, I prefer to keep it in a HISA earning 4-5% instead of paying mortgage.
For the reference, my rate is 4.99% 39-months / 25-years but I hope to get rid of it in 4-5 years instead of 25.
Thanks.
8:02 am
January 3, 2013
Thank you so much, Norman. Can you elaborate on "every six months" which is my question too. I can confirm this with Desjardins (my lender).
If it's the case, am I gaining anything by paying it faster let's say in the 2nd month of the 6th months? Doesn't this mean, interest won't change until next calculations 4 months later (based on above example)?
8:46 am
April 6, 2013
The "every six months" or "every month" is the compounding period of the mortgage interest. It doesn't mean the interest is calculated on the opening balance of that compounding period. Check the fine print of the mortgage
A daily interest savings account is usually compounded monthly. But, there is an advantage in making deposits to the savings account in the middle of a month.
10:31 am
March 30, 2017
If I am not mistaken, Credit card outstanding balances are the ONLY "loans" that you pay interest for the full period, regardless when the balance is repaid during the period. Also to make it worse, every single new purchase one makes are carrying interest from day 1, thats how the credit card business make so much money off accounts that are not paid off monthly.
For all other bank loans including mortgage, one pays interest on what is still outstanding, the compounding timing is only a second order effect and not material for a "normal" size loan.
10:58 am
January 3, 2013
11:34 am
April 6, 2013
It is a good idea to check the fine print of the actual mortgage one signed to confirm how its interest is calculated and charged.
Also check to see how early discharge of the mortgage by exercising the prepayment privileges would be handled.
I remember reading about someone who started doubling up all their remaining payments and made maximum prepayments, both allowed. That ended up paying off the mortgage balance before the end of its term! The person was then hit with early repayment penalty.
That's not likely going to happen if one still has 20 years left on the amortization. But, that could happen with a five-year mortgage with only five years left in its amortization.
12:07 pm
November 18, 2017
It's always advantageous to pay off interest-bearing debt as early as possible. That's why mortgage lenders limit how much one can pay off at a time, and may charge a higher rate for flexibility.
Make sure to keep enough cash liquid to avoid having to take on high-interest emergency debt!
Remember, depending on your tax bracket, a penny saved can be nearly a penny and a half earned!
RetirEd
RetirEd
1:59 pm
January 3, 2013
@Norman1 - Yes, I'll read the details tonight. Just so many papers as you know. I won't be able to pay it off financially but even if I could, I'd end up paying fees as the double payment + 15% won't cover the mortgage within the next 39 months (My mortgage term). But I will only have a small amount afterwards that if lucky can probably pay off without a new mortgage, if not, will be a 1-2 year mortgage renewal.
2:03 pm
January 3, 2013
@RetirEd - Indeed, emergency is in place. I have multiple options that I can utilize even if no cash available. Tangerine LOC $25K prime rate, Desjardins equity LOC at Prime-0.5% rate, selling equities (stocks / ETFs), or use CCs hoping the emergency can be paid from income.
Also, still have child benefit and dividend income that can technically cover the mortgage itself.
Just hope I won't lose my job! That would be stressful.
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