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T-slips and CRA
April 12, 2025
2:05 pm
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canadian.100 said
The system is obviously "broken" at CRA. At least many Canadians can use the June 2 date to submit without penalty and interest.  

The last Carbon Tax rebate will be issued to taxpayer only after their taxes are filed.
For those who filed their taxes already payout day is April 22.

April 12, 2025
2:55 pm
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AltaRed said
I recall the days there was no CRA MyAccount, the days in which there was no DIY tax software and we used paper and pencil, no Netfiling electronically, and the days when all tax slips were paper mailed.

In today's technological age, I agree the system could/should be more fully automated and timely but it does not take more than an evening or afternoon to physically do this task (data input into tax software) for an average tax return, even with Schedule 3 entries, some self-employment, etc.

The law says it is the taxpayer's responsibility to ensure they keep track of and report all taxable income so I simply cannot get fussed over this sort of thing.  

Yeah I know people used to plough with oxen and get around on horses.
CRA employees are getting paid generously, with great benefits, working from home. CRA increased stuffing by almost 50%. And the CRA has almost six times more tax people (public servants) compared to the US.
All I want is for CRA employees to do their bloody job (serve the public), no more and no less (Increase productivity and decrease bureaucracy). Is this too much to ask? I don’t think so.

April 12, 2025
8:21 pm
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When I was offered a government job many years ago I noticed that lower and middle level government employees are overpaid compared to their private sector counterparts. However, upper level government employees are underpaid compared to their private sector counterparts. I think this is call "salary compression".

April 12, 2025
8:41 pm
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COIN said
When I was offered a government job many years ago I noticed that lower and middle level government employees are overpaid compared to their private sector counterparts. However, upper level government employees are underpaid compared to their private sector counterparts. I think this is call "salary compression".  

And they are all unionized positions (unless they screwed up really bad), almost impossible to fire. No real accountability for low performance, you still get paid even if you do a shitty job. A dream job in Soviet Canada.

April 13, 2025
2:19 am
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UkrainianDude said:

I honestly would appreciate if CRA did their job on time.

It is the job of the outfits submitting the T-slips, not of CRA, to get things out on time.

And I think you may be confusing us by saying:

the CRA's headcount growing from 40,059 people in 2015 to 59,155 people this year - an  increase of 47.6 per cent.
With a population of roughly 336 million, that is the equivalent of one IRS employee for every 4,049 U.S. residents. In Canada, with a population of roughly 40 million, we have one CRA employees for every 676 residents

The CRA does not handle US taxes - you should refer to the IRS, the US equivalent of CRA. You did get that right in your second paragraph, though.

Alexandre: Odd... I just got my last Carbon Tax Rebate. I'm in British Columbia, where we have a separate system and were not supposed to get the last rebate. But it seems to be the second installment, for March, arriving late, and not the third.

(I haven't filed my T1 yet.)

COIN: Historically, the private sector has out-compensated the public sector. This was somewhat balanced by benefits and job security.

In the last decade or so, cutbacks at the lower-income levels have reversed that for said lower-paid privately employed workers.

RetirEd

April 13, 2025
6:48 am
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In my CRA account, still did not receive any T5 from any banks.
I had about $180 capital gain for a stock in 2024 and a little bit dividend on that stock. I will check if the banks mailed me all T5 and T3 slips or not.
I am fine, I can calculate the capital gain and dividend myself. I will file tax return and pay the balance due before Apr 30.

April 13, 2025
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usephrase said
I will check if the banks mailed me all T5 and T3 slips or not.
  

If your stocks are in a brokerage account, have you checked your online brokerage account? That is where my T5s and T5008 are. I use CIBC Investor's Edge and do not receive snail mail from them.

April 13, 2025
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MG said

If your stocks are in a brokerage account, have you checked your online brokerage account?   

Yes, some brokerages/banks do not mail paper T5's anymore. More cost efficient for them to post online.

April 13, 2025
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I have all my T slips. But most do not show on my CRA account. I say it’s a CRA issue because I received both of my People’s on same day and only one shows in My Account.

CRA employees do a decent job. Although the waits are unacceptable and the call back system is not always turned on…and the odd one is very hard to understand due to English is there second language. I don’t understand why we cater to have assistance in multiple languages. The official French and English is all that should be offered, fluently.

The odd time you “do” pay American income tax through CRA. My MIL had an American pension and was reported and “paid” through CRA. It had to be converted to CDN dollars and based on the start date, it had a 50% reduced amount to report.

On April 4, I too, received my last scheduled BCCATC tax credit. But due to my income going up for 2023 and back down due to the Hubert T5 fiasco, I expect one more adjusted BCCATC payment.

April 13, 2025
10:12 am
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Dean said
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For those here still missing some of their Tax Slips on the CRA website, this BNN Article explains why that might be . . .

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O & O,

    Dean

  

And then, there's also this https://financialpost.com/personal-finance/taxes/some-taxpayers-may-find-cras-online-portal-is-missing-tax-slips

Welcome to the CRA❗ sf-confused

    Dean

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April 13, 2025
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MG said

If your stocks are in a brokerage account, have you checked your online brokerage account? That is where my T5s and T5008 are. I use CIBC Investor's Edge and do not receive snail mail from them.  

Thanks, I checked minute ago, yes, I received all T5 and T5008 for my Cash account in the Brokerage online account. The banks mailed me T5s for HISA interests.

I received all slips from the banks or brokerage.

April 13, 2025
6:33 pm
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usephrase said

"Thanks, I checked minute ago, yes, I received all T5 and T5008 for my Cash account in the Brokerage online account. The banks mailed me T5s for HISA interests.

I received all slips from the banks or brokerage.  

"I checked minute ago, yes, I received all T5 and T5008 for my Cash account in the Brokerage online account."

Question: Did you elect to receive all documents from your brokerage online? Or, is online the default option?

April 13, 2025
7:50 pm
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I think for some, if not all, brokerages, one has to sign up for electronic communications to avoid being charged for paper monthly account statements. If one elects to receive statements electronically, then I suspect all communications become electronic, e.g. trade confirmation slips, tax slips, etc, etc. If you think about it, that would make perfect sense.

I went to electronic delivery a very long time ago. At least back to 2010 and probably earlier. It may be that in more recent times, that is the default option, if not maybe the only option.

April 13, 2025
8:19 pm
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COIN said

"I checked minute ago, yes, I received all T5 and T5008 for my Cash account in the Brokerage online account."

Question: Did you elect to receive all documents from your brokerage online? Or, is online the default option?  

Like AltaRed said: one has to sign up for electronic communications to avoid being charged for paper monthly account statements.
AltaRed remebers everything sf-smilesf-smile

I signed up for electronic at the Brokerage online account, I think so. I know for sure the Brokerage uploads all tax slips into my online account, and the Brokerage also mailed me tax slips papers ( mailed all or some of tax slips, I do not know). No charge when they mailed papers for tax slips, but they never mailed monthly statements.
Every year, I logged in the online account to get all tax slips. Capital Gain, Dividend, and interest paid information is available after Settlement Date or Transaction Date in online account.

Tool to calculate Capital Gains:
https://www.adjustedcostbase.ca/

April 14, 2025
7:48 am
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"The CRA announced that it would grant relief of late-filing penalties and interest until June 2 for individuals who need to report capital gains on their 2024 tax return"

This would be a way to defer filing one's return for a month. Very useful for those taxpayers who are waiting for T3's from their mutual funds. But, does one still have to pay their taxes by April 30th?

Question: What is this capital gain issue again? Was it a change in the inclusion rate?

April 14, 2025
7:59 am
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Yes, the relief is for both the late filing penalties and the arrears interest.

One needs to separate 2024 capital property dispositions into Period 1 dispositions (between January 1 and June 24, 2024) and Period 2 dispositions (between June 25 and December 31, 2024). The inclusion rate could be different for the dispositions in the two periods.

April 14, 2025
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Norman1 said
Yes, the relief is for both the late filing penalties and the arrears interest.

One needs to separate 2024 capital property dispositions into Period 1 dispositions (between January 1 and June 24, 2024) and Period 2 dispositions (between June 25 and December 31, 2024). The inclusion rate could be different for the dispositions in the two periods.  

For certain capital (or real) property? I thought the decision was to revert to 50% for the post June 24th period. The inputs are separated in tax software and it shows in different places on Schedule 3, but the sub-totals are then aggregated and processed at 50%.

BTW, the deferment of penalties and arrears interest to June 2nd is for all capital dispositions. IOW, it applies to Schedule 3 in total.

April 14, 2025
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Long story short. The capital gains inclusion rate for the whole of 2024 is 50%. Yes?

April 14, 2025
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Yes.

It was 50% inclusion for Period 1. For Period 2, it was 50% inclusion of first $250,000 and 2/3 of rest.

Then, it was 50% for both Period 1 and Period 2. The 50% of first $250,000 and 2/3 of rest would start January 1, 2025 instead start of Period 2 (June 25, 2024).

I think now it is 50% for Period 1, Period 2, and after.

Regardless, one still needs to split the capital gains/losses between Period 1 and Period 2 for the 2024 tax year.

April 15, 2025
12:51 am
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AltaRed said
Manual entry of tax slip data into tax software is not all that onerous. Besides, even if one uses auto-fill, all of the data needs to verified for accuracy anyway. At the end of the day, I am not sure auto-fill actually saves all that much time..  

You must be one of the trolls and contrarians I see posting on various social media platforms ignoring the fact that simple errors can occur during the manual process of carrying over the numbers.

Tax programs are designed for auto-fill and reconciling (verifying) them is a given but the autofill feature and CRA having your slips is a safety net. Accountants use auto-fill and if competent or not lazy, will verify with the physical slips.

I experienced slips never received but appear in My Account. If it wasn't posted in My Account, I would've paid more in tax and penalized in the process, something I suspect CRA is counting on.

Anyway, this is a known issue which CRA is still stonewall, denying, gaslighting, and deflecting the issue back to the financial institutions: [https://financialpost.com/personal-finance/taxes/some-taxpayers-may-find-cras-online-portal-is-missing-tax-slips]

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