11:04 am
September 24, 2019
I sent in my (paper) return on 11 April. So far response: April 25th: We received your 2022 income tax and benefit return. April 25th: We are processing your 2022
income tax and benefit return.
I am expecting a refund. I also helped a couple of seniors with their returns both of whom would not be getting a refund or the need to pay any amount owing. Theirs were received and completed very early on.
I wonder when they will get around to mine? Anyone else having similar experience? Thanks.
11:29 am
April 15, 2015
12:25 pm
January 12, 2019
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WOW ... The last time I did a 'Paper' return must have been about 10 years ago.
I didn't even think that was a thing anymore ❗
I sent my 'Electronic' Income Tax Return in on April 12th. Six (6) business days later on April 20th, I electronically received my Notice of Assessment, and on that Same day my tax refund was automatically deposited in my SA.
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12:36 pm
September 24, 2019
Dean said
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WOW ... The last time I did a 'Paper' return must have been about 10 years ago.
I didn't even think that was a thing anymore ❗I sent my 'Electronic' Income Tax Return in on April 12th. Six (6) business days later on April 20th, I electronically received my Notice of Assessment, and on that Same day my tax refund was automatically deposited in my SA.
No Muss, No Fuss ... And No Trees Had To Be Cut Down
Dean
Ya. I like doing the paper ones. Have rental income as well as other types.
Sometimes I have to explain something and find that easier with using paper.
Also, the low income seniors I do them for appreciate it and understand it better.
They get to fill out the return copy themselves from the draft copy. This way they can follow along with the process better. And it is free for them!!
3:03 pm
September 11, 2013
Filed paper around the same time as you, Alexandra, both of us got our refunds this week.
And no electricity used to run computers, servers, etc, no toxic mine waste created from mining materials for computers, servers, no supply chains re electronics involved, etc, etc, etc, I like paper as the green way to file (do you know how many board feet of lumber grow every second on the planet? thank god somebody's cutting that wood back!). I did use an ancient calculator though, but it's solar powered so I can virtue signal about that.
3:44 pm
April 2, 2018
Bill said
Filed paper around the same time as you, Alexandra, both of us got our refunds this week.And no electricity used to run computers, servers, etc, no toxic mine waste created from mining materials for computers, servers, no supply chains re electronics involved, etc, etc, etc,
But you have USED of all above to post your message...
Next time try to use pigeon carrier to send your note. It is natural, orgnic, feeds itself and you can eat it if you have to...
3:53 pm
October 27, 2013
Thus the non-supportability of that position. Forestry is energy intensive and the making of pulp and paper is highly toxic. https://www.theworldcounts.com/stories/environmental-impact-of-paper-production
4:46 pm
September 11, 2013
Citing a single source (and that isn't one I'd heed), especially one that lacks comparatives to the options, e.g. comparing every single input involved in using a few sheets of paper vs e-filing a tax return, isn't the way to determine truth. An engineer would say.
But pooreva, you're absolutely right about the pigeon, I retract my right to virtue signal.
4:58 pm
October 27, 2013
5:35 pm
March 30, 2017
Alexandra said
I sent in my (paper) return on 11 April. So far response: April 25th: We received your 2022 income tax and benefit return. April 25th: We are processing your 2022
income tax and benefit return.I am expecting a refund. I also helped a couple of seniors with their returns both of whom would not be getting a refund or the need to pay any amount owing. Theirs were received and completed very early on.
I wonder when they will get around to mine? Anyone else having similar experience? Thanks.
I am same time line as you, after it said recd and in process on apr25, the express NOA was issued a few days later. Read the full NOA on May 9 too. Maybe cuz they just take my numbers, and remove the tax owed from instalment account.
5:44 pm
September 11, 2013
AltaRed, I said the exact opposite, maybe you're misreading.
This example bit of info might illuminate it's more complex than the fraction of a watt when you hit send: I've read a few times that the vast majority (I've read over the years from 70% to 83% to even more than 90%) of the energy to manufacture, to use and then to dispose of a consumer-style computer has been expended before you even buy it. And that's not considering the heating effect of the world's servers and other hardware facilities used in its operations. I'm saying cradle-to-grave analysis is needed, not just the moment you send the file. But whatever, general media says paper is bad, digital is good, everybody's aware of the mainstream view.
6:22 pm
October 27, 2013
Bill, I said 'I agree' to assert (in a different way) that it is near impossible for anyone to agree with your position but my 'response style' got lost in the translation. My fault for not being direct.
The things you assert that cost the environment (digital hardware) already exist for dozens/hundreds of other reasons. Electronic filing of tax returns would have no incremental cause, nor effect, of your use of your hardware and that of the internet and the host server for this forum for you to post here. Whether you electronically file your tax returns or not makes no difference to the entirety of the hardware that already exists in your home and elsewhere. Why not electronically file at essentially zero incremental cost to the environment?
The only cost I can see of taxpayers electronic filing tax returns vs not a single person in Canada electronic filing is the incremental operating energy cost to create the file on personal devices and to then transmit the file. I am guessing that is likely in the order of a watt, or fraction thereof, most likely produced by renewable (hydro, solar, wind) power in most provinces. Nothing else is consumed in that process.
OTOH, that paper you used to print your return and mail via Canada Post cost real money and environmental cost to produce (and mail and sort and transport and deliver) and that paper will never again see the light of day until/unless CRA ships it all to a recycler for regeneration of recycled paper. That paper might end up in landfill as organic matter to decompose some day, or worse, burned releasing carbon back into the air.
The world would be better off if no paper mill existed and forestry operations were cut back accordingly to not feed that monster. I do not need any additional analysis to know I am doing the environment a favour.
6:27 pm
November 18, 2017
6:37 pm
October 27, 2013
7:40 pm
November 18, 2017
With today's widely-deployed technology, there's no way I can prove something in my computer is an actual copy of corporate files. Corporations routinely refuse to supply information about disputed matters. And, of course, having one's computer compromised is more likely for most people than a fire or theft of records.
There are more secure methods, but they are not being used because "frictionless" technology helps sell more stuff.
RetirEd
RetirEd
8:08 pm
October 27, 2013
9:03 pm
April 6, 2013
With bills of exchange, like cheques, one doesn't have to prove anything about an electronic official image of the bill.
The Bills of Exchange Act has been amended so that electronic copies are presumed to be real:
Presumption
163.4 (1) In the absence of evidence to the contrary, a document purporting to be an official image of an eligible bill is presumed to be an official image of the eligible bill.
Admissibility
(2) An official image of an eligible bill is admissible in evidence for all purposes for which the eligible bill would be admitted as evidence without proof that the official image was created by or on behalf of a bank in accordance with the by-laws, rules or standards made under the Canadian Payments Act.
True copy of contents
(3) In the absence of evidence to the contrary, an official image of an eligible bill is presumed to be a true and exact copy of the contents of the eligible bill.
7:39 am
May 11, 2023
Alexandra said
I sent in my (paper) return on 11 April. So far response: April 25th: We received your 2022 income tax and benefit return. April 25th: We are processing your 2022
income tax and benefit return.I am expecting a refund. I also helped a couple of seniors with their returns both of whom would not be getting a refund or the need to pay any amount owing. Theirs were received and completed very early on.
I wonder when they will get around to mine? Anyone else having similar experience? Thanks.
If you have access to your CRA My Account, you may find a Notice of Assessment that should tell you. Also I do believe they will send a refund even if your return has not been verified. There is a deadline when they have to pay YOU by....other wise they have to pay interest to you on the amount owed to you. What date that is...I don’t know. Also, if you do receive a refund on an unverified return you still may have to pay back part of the refund or more or receive a larger refund.
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