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Hubert GICs better than advertised?
September 17, 2012
9:48 am
Jim
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From Hubert's website:

Interest is calculated daily, paid and compounded annually for our term deposits.

What I'm seeing in actuality is daily calculation and daily compounding like what Ally does, not annual compounding like they say. This gives you an effective rate boost, from say 3.45% to around 3.50% or so. Not huge, but hey, I'll take the surprise to the upside. Thanks Hubert! Interest is paid annually so at least that statement is correct. Anyone else observe this?

-Jim

September 17, 2012
5:47 pm
Doug
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I'm confused - interest on GICs at Hubert is compounded daily and paid annually at Hubert? I don't see how you could have that. It'd have to be paid monthly in order for it to compund every month. Sounds like it's only compounding and paid annually, which is what you said. :)

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Doug

September 18, 2012
11:55 am
Jim
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Doug said

I'm confused - interest on GICs at Hubert is compounded daily and paid annually at Hubert? I don't see how you could have that. It'd have to be paid monthly in order for it to compund every month. Sounds like it's only compounding and paid annually, which is what you said. :)

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Doug

Yes, it appears to be compounded daily and paid annually. I think you're confused because you believe that interest has to be paid out in order for it to compound. It does not.

September 18, 2012
12:27 pm
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Another observation. Many places calculate GIC interest daily even though they pay and compound yearly. Any day in 2012 (leap year) earns interest at GIC rate/366. Hubert appears to use GIC rate/365, and gives you an extra day's compounding interest on Feb. 29. Peanuts, but still, nice of them.

September 19, 2012
11:10 pm
Doug
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Hrm, okay, didn't think they did that but okay, will take your word for it. ;)

You say Hubert uses GIC rate/365 in a leap year gives you extra compounding. How come? Wouldn't GIC rate/366 be better? Always get confused with calculating daily compounded interest - and I work in banking!

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Doug

September 20, 2012
8:38 am
Jim
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Doug said

You say Hubert uses GIC rate/365 in a leap year gives you extra compounding. How come? Wouldn't GIC rate/366 be better? Always get confused with calculating daily compounded interest - and I work in banking!

Cheers,
Doug

Doug, a daily interest rate of x/365 is simply a bigger number than x/366 where x is the annual rate. If you compound daily, you are compounding extra interest every day compared to a rate of x/366.

How did I come up with this? Based on a recent annual interest payment I received on a GIC, I have "reverse engineered" the interest policy and it appears to be daily compound interest with x/365, with an extra day's interest payment added in. The interval the GIC covered included Feb. 29. There is the possibility that I am wrong though. However I'm very confident that the compounding is daily not annually.

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