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Recording your calls
May 10, 2021
9:18 am
Alexandre
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Exactly right: if phone needs a "digital box," this must be VoIP.

Also, if your "landline" phone service offers unlimited Canada-wide calls, that is most likely VoIP. Especially, if it comes with "digital box."

Finally, if you are getting phone service from Bell, it is (or could be) real landline, but from many other service providers - most likely not. Too few can afford to set, carry or join legacy phone infrastructure.

A true and pure landline is a phone line (copper) from the street, like PubMob said. Everything else is not kosher.

Nothing wrong with VoIP if you know what you'll get and OK with it, just don't create hopes for people who want or need classic landline, that they can get it for tiny monthly fee. They won't.

May 10, 2021
9:28 am
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PubMob said .....
Some VoIP phone systems using house power and internet becomes non useable during a power outage and/or internet outage. And your alarm may also not work during an outage.  

This problem can easily be overcome by installing an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) usually used as a battery power backup for computer systems. The preferred setup would be to connect the internet modem, VOIP device and cordless phone main unit to a UPS with a capacity of 1000 VA or greater.

Modern alarm systems may not be affected as cell phone technology and their own independent battery backup protect those systems.

I've been using UPS configuration successfully for years.

Stephen

May 10, 2021
9:33 am
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Nehpets said

This problem can easily be overcome by installing an uninterruptable power supply (UPS) usually used as a battery power backup for computer systems. The preferred setup would be to connect the internet modem, VOIP device and cordless phone main unit to a UPS with a capacity of 1000 VA or greater.

Modern alarm systems may not be affected as cell phone technology and their own independent battery backup protect those systems.

I've been using UPS configuration successfully for years.

Stephen  

Good point. And alarm should still work too as most have battery back up?

But if your internet is out (not power) there is no solution other than using your mobile phone.

May 10, 2021
11:18 am
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PubMob said

Good point. And alarm should still work too as most have battery back up?

But if your internet is out (not power) there is no solution other than using your mobile phone.  

if u use a VOIP and internet is down, ur alarm system will show error as it sees phone line connection loss.

re the Rogers landline, when I have their landline, it is a cable signal that goes into a box, and then the trad phone jack plugs into the box and feed rest of house. It functions like a traditional landline in the sense it is not dependent on the internet (I have cases when both internal is down, but cable TV and landline still works), but still needs power. The box has back up power for 8hrs.
They also have a Rogers digital home phone, which is 100% VOIP. The Rogers landline is like $20 vs $10 for their VOIP version, both only offered as part of bundle package at this discount prices.
I cancelled my internet with them as they no longer give me any decent discount, then they want to jack up my landline (remaining service), thats when I decided to spend the time to learn about VOIP etc and made the switch.

May 10, 2021
11:23 am
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To my understanding the Shaw home phone that back feeds into the house phone wiring is VOIP and DOES work with an alarm.

But does an alarm work from an ATA box...I doubt it.

What Voip service did you choose to use?

May 10, 2021
12:55 pm
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I'm guessing for some time now that new subdivisions haven't even had the copper line option, I assume the legacy landline is only available in older homes.

May 10, 2021
1:01 pm
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Right!!! Usually here, new subdivisions go with Optic for Telus...not sure what Shaw is using. And Telus is redoing complete cities although our city won't allow them to "re-do".

May 10, 2021
7:15 pm
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PubMob said
But does an alarm work from an ATA box...I doubt it.

yes it does. Thats what I use for my alarm and no issues at all.

It does require an unconventional hookup esp since the alarm box is in the basement but my ATA adapter is on the main floor (next to my modem).
My alarm system, all my jacks in the house feeds thru the VOIP, as if its like a traditional landline. I get it all to work without issue

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