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Recording your calls
May 6, 2021
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savemoresaveoften said

I moved mine over to VOIP 2 years ago (on a pay per use model, avg is about $3-5 a month including 911 location services.)

What VOIP service do you use with pay per use model?

May 6, 2021
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Rick, are you kidding me, land lines are one of the miracles of our civilization, $20/month for contact on your terms, and the minute you step out your door no-one can contact you, nobody knows where you are, no electronic tracking device for the hive to have a clue what you're up. I'm not sure you youngsters can even begin to comprehend the sense of freedom that $20 buys!sf-smile

May 6, 2021
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pooreva said

savemoresaveoften said

I moved mine over to VOIP 2 years ago (on a pay per use model, avg is about $3-5 a month including 911 location services.)

What VOIP service do you use with pay per use model?  

VOIP.MS

They are catered to business use in general (meaning they have 1000X more functions then I would ever need, also not as a plug it in and go type). However someone who is tech saavy will have no issue following their detailed instruction to program the device to work. I bot the Cisco VOIP adapter for around $40 and follow their instruction to set it up. Also their live chat tech support is second to none.

Not related to them in anyway but if you do join, think I earn like a $5 referral or something. You can PM me for more details if you are interested. I used it for my alarm system as well and no issues. Its more of a scare tactics when alarm monitoring companies say VOIP may not be supported, etc etc

BTW it was free phone number port over too at the time (think it is.) All other VOIP provider charges a fee I believe.

But if you want a simple install and want something to work straight out of the box, those other services provider that includes the hardware and pre-programmed will be easier for sure.

May 6, 2021
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Bill said
Rick, are you kidding me, land lines are one of the miracles of our civilization, $20/month for contact on your terms, and the minute you step out your door no-one can contact you, nobody knows where you are, no electronic tracking device for the hive to have a clue what you're up. I'm not sure you youngsters can even begin to comprehend the sense of freedom that $20 buys!sf-smile  

Wow...haven't been a youngster in decades. Thanx!
See your points on tracking etc. Personally...don't care. I have nothing to hide. Wife and I know where each other are at all times, and location tracking can be shut off or set to only let whatever app access your location while you are actually using the app. Don't think a game app or Pizza Hut needs to know where I am 24/7. Tracking certainly came in handy for the FBI and Homeland Security (the Hive???) on Jan 6 though.
It's a personal choice. To me it's more important to be available for that one in a million call you don't ever want to miss, (someone you love has been in an accident, is in the hospital, died, in distress or an emergency) than finding out too late because I was at Wal-Mart getting a tube of Gorilla Glue and missed the call. If freedom is more important, turn off the ringer or power off the phone all together.
I don't get calls from Revenue Canada telling me there's a warrant out for my arrest unless I pay the fine in iTunes cards anymore either. Phone blocks them. Let's see a landline do that, or give you step-by-step directions to anywhere, or do a PoS sale because you forgot your wallet, or take that pic of bigfoot, or a George Floyd (RIP) video, or control your appliances and lights. The miracle is they can do all that and more on a device the size of a pack of cigarettes. And, since I have a mobile, I save $240 a year on a landline.
Can you still find cassettes for those 20 pound Radio Shack answering machines??
Enjoy your (illusion of) freedom sf-winksf-wink
savemoresaveoften....VoIP is useless to me. As often as the internet goes down, last thing I need is to have to call an ambulance and have no phone service. Happened to my mother once already. Fortunately, we made her get a mobile. Don't think she ever used it before that moment but was sure a life saver when she needed it. Please have a backup plan for that situation

May 6, 2021
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Rick said
savemoresaveoften....VoIP is useless to me. As often as the internet goes down, last thing I need is to have to call an ambulance and have no phone service. Happened to my mother once already. Fortunately, we made her get a mobile. Don't think she ever used it before that moment but was sure a life saver when she needed it. Please have a backup plan for that situation  

For security/safety purpose, a traditional land line is undeniably very reliable.
For my family, each person's own cell phone is the phone. The VOIP line is like I said, for occasional fax, alarm system and the duct cleaning guy to call me lol...

My cell phone is on me most of the time even at home. That is the closest phone I can get to if I need to make a distress call.

May 7, 2021
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We still have a land line and won't be getting rid of it as long as they don't take it away form us. There is one in every room for convenience.

They never have to be replaced or updated, they never get lost or dropped in the toilet, the battery never runs down because there is none (ideal for long period on hold when calling, say, Tangerine or CRA), and some of them will work even if there is a power outage because they don't require an electrical connection - a feature I consider very important, especially as we can look forward to more frequent and severe storms due to climate change; it gives us an extra option. We've had some of them a very long time.

In addition, spouse has a smartphone, which does the things smartphones do very well; and I have a plain jane cell phone for rare use. Even though I've rarely used the latter, I've still had to replace it 3 times over the years due to non-replaceable batteries and other features of planned obsolescence.

May 8, 2021
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If you have an open VOIP account vs a cheap canned package. You can program call recording and/or set up an APP on your mobile phone to record calls AND also to give out a different caller ID number.

May 9, 2021
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Bill said
Rick, are you kidding me, land lines are one of the miracles of our civilization, $20/month for contact on your terms, and the minute you step out your door no-one can contact you, nobody knows where you are, no electronic tracking device for the hive to have a clue what you're up. I'm not sure you youngsters can even begin to comprehend the sense of freedom that $20 buys!sf-smile  

$20/mth for land line who? Bell $75

May 9, 2021
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Loonie said They never have to be replaced or updated, they never get lost or dropped in the toilet, the battery never runs down because there is none (ideal for long period on hold when calling, say, Tangerine or CRA), and some of them will work even if there is a power outage because they don't require an electrical connection - a feature I consider very important, especially as we can look forward to more frequent and severe storms due to climate change; it gives us an extra option. We've had some of them a very long time.

Security for my aged mother was the reason I kept a Telus landline for as long as possible until we finally had to switch to a Shaw bundle.

Bud said $20/mth for land line who? Bell $75  

I have a Shaw bundle and get my landline for $10/month.

May 9, 2021
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If you talk the right way to Telus they will give you a forever $5 rate for home phone. The money is in the internet now..not phone.

May 9, 2021
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Please provide details so that I may use it upon my next renewal period.

May 9, 2021
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My $20 monthly landline is with Bell, actually I think it's a bit less, plus HST, been like that for years now. I have internet and satellite with them too, so it's a bundle deal.

$75 is bull, here's the truth, before any discounts you can get if you bundle or negotiate:
https://www.bell.ca/home_phone

May 9, 2021
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My $20 monthly landline is with Bell, actually I think it's a bit less, plus HST, been like that for years now. I have internet and satellite with them too, so it's a bundle deal.

$75 is bull, here's the truth, before any discounts you can get if you bundle or negotiate:
https://www.bell.ca/home_phone  

You would think that more would be on VOIP in the east. That rate for a home phone is just too much. It's time to drop your loyalty and if piecing it out is less then .... But of course if you can negotiate every 2 years...go for it.

Here is the Telus deal. You tell them you cannot afford the rates or say you can get for less or say your other retired friends have the $5 deal. It is quite easy to do. And you can do it "mid agreement" as well.

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May 9, 2021
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With that Telus land line, can you call Canada wide for free?

I used to have Bell (~$30/monthly). When I cancelled they called every day for a week to persuade me to stay with them mentioning some bs reasons but did not offer any discount or better rate.
Shameful company! To call from Aurora to Brampton was long distance call.

May 9, 2021
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pooreva said
With that Telus land line, can you call Canada wide for free?

I used to have Bell (~$30/monthly). When I cancelled they called every day for a week to persuade me to stay with them mentioning some bs reasons but did not offer any discount or better rate.
Shameful company! To call from Aurora to Brampton was long distance call.  

No (to Telus), we rarely call out of area. And if we need, we can usually call using our Voip that is Canada and USA wide or can use FaceTime. It is all cost controlled based on our needs with a lot of flexibility. I do NOT have a Telus land line but manage a relatives account.

May 9, 2021
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All this made me check my bill, one residence where I have Bell internet and satellite too I pay $20.45 for the landline, another residence where I just have internet too I pay $29.65. Dropping the landline would likely increase the cost of the other services because it's all part of the packages I have, so it's not worth it to me to save a few bucks elsewhere. By not having a monthly cell phone bill I'm saving a lot, from what I hear on here, so I'm not too fussed about a few bucks on a landline. Works for our household, we're not big phone people, so I'm leaving as is. Plus my Bell shares have treated me very well over the last 40 years or so, so all in all I'm very happy to have Bell in my life.

May 9, 2021
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bill what does ur bundle cost phone internet mobile etc

May 10, 2021
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For all those that reported $10-$20 a month landline, its only doable if one has a bundled package. Rogers / Bell etc offer a stand alone landline anywhere close to that price.
Also for Rogers, one has to be careful as they offer both traditional landline type and VOIP. The traditional still need a digital box but connects to the traditional plugs etc. However its reserve power is only 8-12hrs. So its not as secure as an old school Bell landline if power loss is a concern too.

May 10, 2021
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Bud, I have no mobile in my bundles, plus there are a number of levels of both satellite tv and fibe internet so what I pay is not helpful as it all depends in what levels of services you pick. Plus I don't stream, no Crave, netflix, etc, so I'm pretty sure no-one else has my particular combination of old-school services.

May 10, 2021
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savemoresaveoften said
Also for Rogers, one has to be careful as they offer both traditional landline type and VOIP.

The traditional still need a digital box but connects to the traditional plugs etc. However its reserve power is only 8-12hrs. So its not as secure as an old school Bell landline if power loss is a concern too.  

Not sure about “traditional “ Rogers. If it needs a digital box with battery back up and is plugged into power as well and has an incoming coax line to it and it is back fed into the closest phone jack..I believe it is VoIP too. And alarms can work with this set up. Shaw home lines are same.

Traditional would be a copper line from the street to a central box in house and all jacks in house are fed from the box. This copper line will include a low voltage wire. So a conventional hard wired phone will work in a power outage. That is if the inbound wiring has power. In some provinces power must be supplied by customer on this type of installation. The one thing that is not well understood is a cordless phone may cause your phone system to not work at all on any type phone system. The newer cordless set will “if” you leave the handset in the base station to provide backup power. And of course you can move other handsets to the base station if one runs out of power.

So you need to know what kind of phone system you have and how your cordless phone set works with it and if your wired alarm will work with it.

If you are running with a traditional line with power supplied by Telco then you can always run with one hardwired phone for use during a power outage.

Some VoIP phone systems using house power and internet becomes non useable during a power outage and/or internet outage. And your alarm may also not work during an outage.

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