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9:40 pm
April 14, 2021
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MarkFog said
Bill said
If power's out and everything's down I think no-one will take your cash anyway,Right, and if I had gas to sell you during a power outage I am going to give you
credit right?
Is anyone still operating a business? My business had CC services, just as the online swipe services were becoming popular in the 90s. I remember that we still had the back-up paper imprinter machines available. Are they still available or allowable?
6:12 am
November 8, 2018
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MarkFog said
Bill said
If power's out and everything's down I think no-one will take your cash anyway,Right, and if I had gas to sell you during a power outage I am going to give you
credit right?
Gas stations will be offline when power goes out. Perhaps, there are still hand pumps or someone has backup power generator at station at rural area, but that is not the case in big cities and suburbs.
6:20 am
November 8, 2018
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Bill said
If power's out and everything's down I think no-one will take your cash anyway, ...
They can. I lived through Ontario outage, I can tell from my experience.
It makes sense to keep some cash in small denominations at home as an emergency fund, but that does not negate the fact that society goes cashless.
When power is out, you can't spend much cash anyway: frozen food, milk, fresh meat and fish - out of the question. To name just few.
Gas stations are off.
You can spend on bottled water and non-perishables. How much you'll need for that, for about 3-4 days, with what you already have at home, for a family of regular size?
Even if cash register is not working, I can leave $5 bill for $3.75 pack of bottled water and not ask for cash change. I don't think merchant will object.
Got some high rollers on this site, I just found out how to save up to 2 cents by using a card instead of cash, beauty!
I got your sarcasm, but I look at this differently. By paying with cash you are donating 2 cents to Wal-Mart, and also they save on credit card transaction fee. Multiply that by millions and millions transactions, and now you are talking real money - for Wal-Mart.
While I accept the place of companies like Wal-Mart in capitalist world, I am in no mood to donate even one red cent to them.
6:24 am
November 8, 2018
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HermanH said
Is anyone still operating a business? My business had CC services, just as the online swipe services were becoming popular in the 90s. I remember that we still had the back-up paper imprinter machines available. Are they still available or allowable?
They became obsolete: many credit cards are now flat, and old ones when they expire are often replaced with new ones coming without embossed numbers.
Some credit cards do not even have place for signature on the back.
7:35 am
April 1, 2016
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Alexandre said
I got your sarcasm, but I look at this differently. By paying with cash you are donating 2 cents to Wal-Mart, and also they save on credit card transaction fee. Multiply that by millions and millions transactions, and now you are talking real money - for Wal-Mart.
While I accept the place of companies like Wal-Mart in capitalist world, I am in no mood to donate even one red cent to them.
You looking at it your way and I look at it my way. What you have described is sort of like what many of us went through in the past 4 years. Remove a little bit of freedom for the exchange of convenience and money. Lots of people opted for convenience and money. Some are dealing with the repercussions for those decisions. Going cashless will have repercussions. It's not to say there won't be ways to get around them even if it is forced on us.
Also, if we go completely cashless, places like Walmart won't be hiring an armoured vehicle to pick up cash. Less personnel to process the cash. That will be savings that they will balance out. With digital finances everything can be calculated very quickly. So you are not hurting them by using your cc. I worked as a cashier throughout the 90s and the cash office was a major task every week. Most stores don't even have a cash office anymore because the cash flow is not there.
Yes, gas stations would be offline, but in a long duration power outage what will be harder to find a can of gasoline or electricity for your EV?
I am very surprised that there are still a large part of the population that still puts full faith in the powers-that-be. It's so obvious they are so capable of telling us the true about what their plans are for us.
8:26 am
March 30, 2017
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MarkFog said
Another thing to consider is that cashless purchases are all tractable. How about privacy?
Maybe I am the minority or may be cuz I am little younger than the avg age on this forum. I really dont care at all if my purchase are traced or not. I have nothing to hide and the privacy of people not knowing what I purchased/consumed is of no value to me.
Actually I would prefer to get paid if I am being traced, not cuz privacy but rather my data should be worth something 🙂
11:43 am
April 14, 2021
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savemoresaveoften said
MarkFog said
Another thing to consider is that cashless purchases are all tractable. How about privacy?Maybe I am the minority or may be cuz I am little younger than the avg age on this forum. I really dont care at all if my purchase are traced or not. I have nothing to hide and the privacy of people not knowing what I purchased/consumed is of no value to me.
You sound like my young nephew, "I've got nothing to hide, so trace me."
Everyone has something to hide. Just think about your health data. That can be gleaned, if your transactions are traced. Maybe you have herpes, heart condition, mental issue, or some other medical condition you wish to hide. It's no one's business, but yours. However, your attitude of 'nothing to hide' means that some bureaucrat somewhere gets to decide what you get to hide or not. His decision overrides your sovereignty.
Those who adopt this attitude have not likely lived or visited a country under autocratic rule. I was behind the Iron Curtain and in the USSR. There are plenty of things people want hidden. The problem with privacy is that once it is gone, there is no getting it back; just ask those poor folks who are trying to take down their stolen images from the internet.
3:04 pm
September 29, 2017
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savemoresaveoften said
...Actually I would prefer to get paid if I am being traced, not cuz privacy but rather my data should be worth something 🙂
Your data is being used in so many ways...
https://stopworldcontrol.com/endhumanity/
4:50 pm
November 8, 2018
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MarkFog said
gas stations would be offline, but in a long duration power outage what will be harder to find a can of gasoline or electricity for your EV?
When power goes off for long period of time, if you have an EV such as Ford F-150 Lightning, you can run standard size fridge off its 120V outlet. That fridge will run for long, long time.
It is the least EV can do for you, but it can do more if not now then in few years, just google V2H.
Gasoline car does have its use during power outage, too. With all free time on your hands from blackout, you can take all spoiled food from the fridge and drive to nearest dumpster to dispose it.
Even 20-30 years from now, that is all gasoline car can do for your house during the blackout.
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