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Personal Finance Software - give it a try
January 14, 2018
1:46 pm
frugal lady
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I have been using Microsoft Money program for years and years to keep track of personal finances including Investment Portfolio. In my opinion it is the best out there. It was a paid for program that Microsoft has since discontinued. However, Microsoft is providing a free version of Microsoft Money Plus Sunset for anyone who wants it. You can download your statements from your bank's end and import them into Money. If your looking for a program to keep track of your assets, liabilities, investments, spending, etc. give it a try.

More info: https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/2118008/what-is-microsoft-money-plus-sunset

There are 2 versions: Money Plus Sunset Deluxe or Money Plus Sunset Home and Business which you can download direct from Microsoft

January 14, 2018
2:13 pm
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Interesting, frugal lady. I've not heard someone ever recommend Microsoft Money but that's cool.

At one time, the banks and credit unions discouraged people from using Mint.com (or Mint.ca) for managing their personal finances and investments, sometimes threatening to invalidate online banking security guarantees even though Mint uses the same bank-grade encryption when logging in to your linked bank and investment accounts. With the "Big 5" and many credit unions using both in-house and third-party personal finance technologies that do the same thing (i.e., signing in to your other bank and investment accounts), I doubt that'd argument hold any legal standing anymore. Moreover, if your online banking was ever compromised, you could, truthfully, say that you've not given out your password to anyone. The fact you use a third-party personal finance app to occasionally login and collect your financial details doesn't matter - you're just signing in via a different type of software, like signing in via a non-recommended web browser or what have you. Just make sure you don't tell them about it and you'll be fine. Even if you did tell them, though, their argument most likely wouldn't hold up anymore. 🙂

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Doug

January 14, 2018
3:18 pm
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I am okay to use it as long as I won't have to link it to any online banking account or provide any confidential information. Also will never use anything on cloud. Imagine what happens if it is compromised.

I am happy with my simple Excel sheet. It is saved offline and I update it manually. I have rules set up so it will do the rest for me as I just need to update the balances, fees, interests, etc.

January 14, 2018
4:41 pm
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Doug said

At one time, the banks and credit unions discouraged people from using Mint.com (or Mint.ca) for managing their personal finances and investments, sometimes threatening to invalidate online banking security guarantees even though Mint uses the same bank-grade encryption when logging in to your linked bank and investment accounts. …

That's not what the financial institutions are worried about. They are worried that Mint.com also keeps a copy of the banking password and authentication questions.

If someone was able to get into Mint.com, like someone got into Equifax in the US, they would be able to download those passwords.

January 14, 2018
6:36 pm
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Norman1 said
That's not what the financial institutions are worried about. They are worried that Mint.com also keeps a copy of the banking password and authentication questions.

If someone was able to get into Mint.com, like someone got into Equifax in the US, they would be able to download those passwords.  

But even if they are stored in the cloud (the passwords), they'd be encrypted with 128- or 256-bit encryption (i.e., bank-grade). With Equifax, no passwords were stolen...the problem there was with the unencrypted names, DL numbers, dates of birth and/or SINs or SSNs.

Doesn't Mint allow you to essentially not store the bank passwords and enter them when you want to refresh them? They could still be stored locally via your web browser so you don't have to re-enter them each time. 🙂

Plus, what about RBC Personal Finance Tracker, Valley First/Envision Financial's finance tracker, Coast Capital Savings' and BMO's finance tracking cloud-based personal finance software? I'm sure they store your banking passwords. sf-cool

Aren't they violating each other's online banking security guarantees? That's my point. 🙂

Cheers,
Doug

January 15, 2018
10:29 am
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Save2Retire@55 said
I am happy with my simple Excel sheet. It is saved offline and I update it manually. I have rules set up so it will do the rest for me as I just need to update the balances, fees, interests, etc.  

Exactly what works best for me for the past twenty five years...quarterly updates entered manually, with many automated functions built in....safe, secure and comprehensive.

January 15, 2018
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When using Microsoft money the only password stored is your password to protect your Money data file on your computer, if you wish to use a password.
It does not store or ask for any passwords to your banks.
There is no storage of your data to the "cloud". There are "backup" provisions in the program.

Microsoft Money is my "can't do without it" program for keeping track of absolutely everything you own - once set up you can see Net Worth reports, Income/Spending reports, taxable income, etc.

January 15, 2018
11:10 am
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Good to know there is a final? 'upgrade' available, especially for those who have been using Microsoft Money in one of its many forms.

As I understand it, the software is similar in concept to Quicken Home & Business. Other than Microsoft Money is free, is not being updated, nor has online services. I've used Quicken since 1995 AND I want automatic price quote updating, etc. to keep my asset pricing of all my stocks, ETFs and mutual funds current, so I won't be using Microsoft Money Sunset. I am willing to pay the Quicken subscription price for as long as I manage my portfolio.

January 17, 2018
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I use MS Money from day one. Tried Quicken, it did not do what I expected in a simple way and stayed with MS Money.
I have NO need to know my money status (stocks, mutual funds, etc.) 60/60/24/7 thus I do not care for on-line access to my portfolio.
MS Money has extensive report facility; not using it as I truck my 'money status' in plain Excel, month by month.

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