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Cheque endorsements
February 8, 2023
7:56 pm
Norman1
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Norman1 said
Payee Alice can order the cheque to be paid to the order of Bob. Bob can then order the cheque to be paid to the order of Cindy. Cindy orders the cheque to be deposited to the credit of her bank account. Cheque is then deposited to the credit of Cindy's bank account and not to the credit of Alice's account.

Bill said
Interesting. In practical terms what documentation would Cindy need for her bank to accept the deposit to her account based on a cheque made out to Alice?

The endorsements on the back of the cheque:

Pay to the order of Bob.
Alice
Pay to the order of Cindy.
Bob
Deposit to the credit of
account 8122-142.
Cindy

Not all banks will accept cheques endorsed over to the account holder for deposit. For example, EQ Bank does not:

4. Cheque Parameters and Eligible Items

You agree to the following whenever you deposit a cheque:

  • Only paper cheques that are made payable solely to you can be deposited. Items payable jointly or payable to someone else and endorsed to you will not be accepted;

February 9, 2023
4:52 am
Bill
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Thanks, Norman1.

February 9, 2023
5:53 am
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That does not change the fact that the crook (Cindy) has to impersonate Bob to endorse in order to get a check that was meant for Bob.

So back to the GIC broker situation, basically the broker has to be the crook in order to get the funds on a check that an investor puts his/her own name on it.

February 9, 2023
6:36 am
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The bank will do its due diligence when accepting for deposit a cheque being endorsed in the manner described here. I assume.

February 9, 2023
9:54 am
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The bank usually just checks that the endorsements are there. Bank needs to trust Cindy and that she would be good for the amount of the cheque should it be returned years later.

That's one of the ways Earl Jones used to scam his victims in the Montreal area. Changed the contact address on insurance policies to his address. Told surviours the deceased had no life insurance policy when asked. Forged the beneficiary's endorsement on the cheque from the life insurance company and deposited the cheque into his Royal Bank account. sf-surprised

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