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BoC interest Rate
September 4, 2019
1:05 pm
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Rate held at 1.75%. It’s a good call!

September 4, 2019
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Next time (October 30), after election, it will go down, guaranteed.

September 4, 2019
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Winnie said
Next time (October 30), after election, it will go down, guaranteed.  

Elaborate please.

September 4, 2019
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Winnie said
Next time (October 30), after election, it will go down, guaranteed.  

There are only 2 guaranties in life (if you don't also include the Leafs not winning the Stanley Cup this year). Those would be death and taxes.

An old friend of mine had a favorite saying, "The only certainty is uncertainty." That, you can take to the bank.

September 4, 2019
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Winnie said
Next time (October 30), after election, it will go down, guaranteed.  

My guess is they don’t want to be seen as interfering with an upcoming election. Secondly, depending on what happens with global economies it will be hard to be an attractive stimulus economy when your rate is an outlier to other nations and as a result strengthened the cdn dollar. Most countries are lowering rates. I know the current economic picture is better in Canada but they will likely cave to the global pressure soon. Just my 2 cents.

September 4, 2019
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Vatox said

Elaborate please.  

It's my personal guarantee based on my personal not scientific observations.
I can provide explanations, but some of them are controversial and not usually associated with interest rate change. Let see if my prediction will come true on October 30.

By the way, sadly, I also have very strong feeling, that Justin will win majority again. But, can't guarantee that - possibility of minority win also exist.

September 5, 2019
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They didn't raise the rate this time because they had no good reason to do so AT THIS TIME. I don't think it has anything to do with the election.

Oct 30 is anybody's guess. There's a lot of things happening between now and then, and they could all have impact - tariff wars, election, Brexit, October itself as an often-problematic month for markets, hurricane season, whatever.

As for the election, I find none of the leaders particularly attractive, but will vote for a local candidate whom I like.

September 5, 2019
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I vote conservative which candidate is better for depositors harper was stingy but the other side is negligent

September 5, 2019
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Much as I would like to see them improve, there is a lot more at stake in this election than the returns on our GICs or even the economy more generally.

If we don't make some very serious changes in the immediate future, climate change is going to doom us all, including children and grandchildren. It's the biggest crisis that has ever faced humanity and probably ever will, but most countries are twiddling their thumbs.

It may cost us all to fix it. We can't afford not to. If we stick to a narrow view of self-interest and the preservation of our own wealth alone, we've had the biscuit. I'm glad I don't have children. I'll likely be dead before the worst of it hits, but I still look for individual candidates who will address the problem honestly and have the guts to deal with it, above all other considerations.

Nero fiddled while Rome burned etc etc.

September 5, 2019
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Loonie said
Much as I would like to see them improve, there is a lot more at stake in this election than the returns on our GICs or even the economy more generally.

If we don't make some very serious changes in the immediate future, climate change is going to doom us all, including children and grandchildren. It's the biggest crisis that has ever faced humanity and probably ever will, but most countries are twiddling their thumbs.

It may cost us all to fix it. We can't afford not to. If we stick to a narrow view of self-interest and the preservation of our own wealth alone, we've had the biscuit. I'm glad I don't have children. I'll likely be dead before the worst of it hits, but I still look for individual candidates who will address the problem honestly and have the guts to deal with it, above all other considerations.

Nero fiddled while Rome burned etc etc.  

Agreed, but self interest is what modern society is. No politician is going to compromise their own paycheque. It will get a lot worse before anything is done. they won’t compromise the economy until it’s a do or die situation.

September 5, 2019
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So we need a Hong Kong styled protest here in canada before our governments start to serve us?

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Carbon tax is not the way to fix anything. Carbon tax only accomplishes two things, it makes me/us poorer and it gives the government of canada more money to waste. That's it folks, that's ALL it accomplishes. Don't let a liberal tell you otherwise.

If you want to fix the problem, BAN/outlaw the source. CFCs were killing the ozone, so we outlawed CFCs. If you don't like plastics ban them BUT give me an alternative. You can not tax me to death because you hate the burning of oil and gas and then build a pipeline to sell oil and gas to other countries. How two faced is that?

In my opinion canada needs a complete rebuild from the ground up. If all government, federal, provincial and municipal were cut in half, we'd still have too many. Government unions should be outlawed, they hold us captive far to often. I worked for gm and we were unionized. If we went on strike, you had other options, buy a ford or buy an import.

Government unions (again this is my opinion)... are terrorist, we have no choice but to submit to them, they cripple our society, they cripple the economy. The poor teachers in Ontario are going on strike again this September. I know, i know it's for the love of our kids.

September 5, 2019
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Kidd said
So we need a Hong Kong styled protest here in canada before our governments start to serve us?  

No, I’m saying the climate, catastrophes and devastation needs to reach the tipping point where drastic measures have to be taken. Right now it’s not bad enough to sacrifice our personal desires for what’s needed to stop climate change. And Canada’s output is too little to make a difference anyways. I’m willing to get on board, but the entire world has to also and that won’t happen until everyone stops looking at life as just their own neighbourhood and job.

Government won’t make the changes because it will hurt the economy too much and the next government will turn it all back. Leaving the politicians that made the changes, without a paycheque.

September 5, 2019
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Now every time the wind blows they call it a climate emergency

September 5, 2019
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Kidd said

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Carbon tax is not the way to fix anything. Carbon tax only accomplishes two things, it makes me/us poorer and it gives the government of canada more money to waste. That's it folks, that's ALL it accomplishes. Don't let a liberal tell you otherwise.

If you want to fix the problem, BAN/outlaw the source. CFCs were killing the ozone, so we outlawed CFCs. If you don't like plastics ban them BUT give me an alternative. You can not tax me to death because you hate the burning of oil and gas and then build a pipeline to sell oil and gas to other countries. How two faced is that?

In my opinion canada needs a complete rebuild from the ground up. If all government, federal, provincial and municipal were cut in half, we'd still have too many. Government unions should be outlawed, they hold us captive far to often. I worked for gm and we were unionized. If we went on strike, you had other options, buy a ford or buy an import.

Government unions (again this is my opinion)... are terrorist, we have no choice but to submit to them, they cripple our society, they cripple the economy. The poor teachers in Ontario are going on strike again this September. I know, i know it's for the love of our kids.  

September 5, 2019
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Vatox said

Agreed, but self interest is what modern society is. No politician is going to compromise their own paycheque. It will get a lot worse before anything is done. they won’t compromise the economy until it’s a do or die situation.  

I did specify "narrow" self interest. We need a broader recognition of self-interest , to include basic survival.
It already is "a lot worse" than perhaps most people recognize. It already is "do or die". This election is absolutely critical. If nothing significant happens in the next four years, we've had it.
Unfortunately, politicians tend to follow, not lead, public sentiment,

But I agree that a narrow sense of self-interest is likely to prevail, and will be the death of us. We're a long way from that standard.

We may be small compared to the rest of the world, but we put out more than our share of crap. Every country has to do whatever it can, and show the others the way.

And, yes, Kid,d, we may need a Hong Kong style protest to make anything happen.

September 5, 2019
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Loonie, it’s not do or die yet. Yes the scientists show that we need to do some serious changes now, and I agree. But do or die, to me, means a super tornado is going to hit Toronto, Shanghai, New York etc., next week unless we ban fossil fuel use tomorrow. The politicians only think 4 years ahead and not 50 years.

September 5, 2019
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Today's extreme weather events are the result of yesteryear's inaction.

September 6, 2019
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Todays extreme weather is a result of lobbyists lobbying for handouts.

September 6, 2019
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Kidd said
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Carbon tax is not the way to fix anything. Carbon tax only accomplishes two things, it makes me/us poorer and it gives the government of canada more money to waste. That's it folks, that's ALL it accomplishes. Don't let a liberal tell you otherwise.

Why is it never mentioned when one rants about the carbon tax that me/us get a rebate on our taxes at the end of the year. This rebate negates the effect moneywise on most of me/us regular citizens.

Thus it would only really hurt you if you don't file your income tax.

September 6, 2019
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krwilson said

Kidd said
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Carbon tax is not the way to fix anything. Carbon tax only accomplishes two things, it makes me/us poorer and it gives the government of canada more money to waste. That's it folks, that's ALL it accomplishes. Don't let a liberal tell you otherwise.

Why is it never mentioned when one rants about the carbon tax that me/us get a rebate on our taxes at the end of the year. This rebate negates the effect moneywise on most of me/us regular citizens.

Thus it would only really hurt you if you don't file your income tax.  

Yes - the Carbon Tax is rebated for now, but the Environment Minister has already indicated that the Carbon Tax will increase each year, and we have had no assurance from her at all that it will be rebated in future. (I personally believe the carbon tax will not be 100% rebated in future if the Liberals win in Oct).

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