11:51 pm
December 12, 2009
I wanted to let everyone know that I have updated the "free, Canadian chequing accounts with no minimum balance*" chart with additional details and filled in a number of blanks. They only thing we are really missing is the availability for Quebec residents, but this can be added later.
I've also officially published it on the web (nice feature within Google Docs!), in an HTML format without the Google Docs toolbar to give it a more polished look.
Please feel free to suggest any changes (or additions, as new regionally- or nationally-available products are launched). Changes can be suggested by replying to this thread or directly to either Peter, Yatti or myself via private message/e-mail.
In the case of credit unions, generally, proof of provincial residence and/or mailing address is required and you may be required to physically attend a branch (however, Coast Capital Savings only requires a B.C. address, the account opening can be done virtually).
official weblink: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsrPQOw1M29-dDRrcFVpSFREWVNGSzE4Z2trUFd5dWc&output=html
short link: http://goo.gl/xUQmQ
Additionally, I've suggestion to Peter that we link to this chart from the main "highinterestsavings.ca" home page, either in the top menu bar or in the page footer as well as here.
Cheers,
Doug
* Note: ICICI Bank Canada's HiVALUE Chequing account technically requires as a minimum balance of $500 to waive the monthly fee, but as that is the lowest threshold in Canada, we've included it in this chart. Similarly, officially, Canadian Direct Financial's (part of Canadian Western Bank) KeyDirect Chequing account requires the holder to hold a $5000 KeyReturn GIC or $5000 minimum balance, CDF staff have told highinterestsavings.ca webmaster Peter they have unofficially & quietly started offering this account for free with no minimum balance "to remain competitive in the marketplace". Accordingly, we've included it in this chart as well.
Thanks a lot Doug! I've embedded it into this page now:
https://www.highinterestsavings.ca/free-canadian-chequing-accounts
In the future, we should consider migrating it onto this site itself!
3:57 pm
December 12, 2009
Great job on integrating the recently-published "Free chequing accounts" chart into the "highinterestsavings.ca" website, via an iframe or what have you and a link to it in the top "menu bar", while still keeping it updated via Google Docs. It actually looks pretty good as it is and allows myself & Yatti to update it from time to time, as required.
The only other thing I'd suggest is perhaps maybe a direct link to the new chart from the "Free chequing accounts comparison" article by user Leah a few years ago?
Beyond that, great job too, Peter!
Cheers,
Doug
5:14 pm
December 12, 2009
1:32 am
October 21, 2013
I would like to see AlternaBank added to this chart.
https://www.alternabank.ca/Personal/EverydayBanking/Accounts/eChequing/
11:45 am
December 18, 2008
Loonie said
I would like to see AlternaBank added to this chart.https://www.alternabank.ca/Personal/EverydayBanking/Accounts/eChequing/
I second that request 🙂
8:32 pm
December 12, 2009
SG said
I second that request 🙂
I'm in the process of providing another update and Alterna Bank will definitely be added to this chart, hopefully in the next 30 days (or so). I have a few other FIs to add besides Alterna Bank, namely North Peace Savings Credit Union and possibly even Entegra Credit Union's Implicity Financial division's High Interest Savings Account, though that one would have a "drawback" being Interac Debit Payment transactions aren't free. 🙂
Also, will be updating Canadian Direct Financial to Motive Financial so would likely time it on or around their rebranding date of April 18th. 🙂
Cheers,
Doug
3:03 pm
October 15, 2015
10:03 pm
December 12, 2009
christinad said
I'm wondering if implicity financial should be on this list. It looks like they offer free withdrawals at bank machines and they have preauthorized debits and direct deposits. The only thing they don't seem to have is overdraft protection.
Thanks, christina. I'm considering adding Implicity Financial for sure - the only reason why not is Interac Direct Payment (a.k.a. point-of-sale) purchases aren't free, whereas with "free chequing" accounts they typically are. I'm mulling it over, weighing the options and, if I do, will definitely have to add a "potential drawback".
Another reason I may not - I might try and use that as "leverage" to potentially get them to add Interac Direct Payment purchases to the account. If they did that, or added free Interac e-Transfers, I'd probably use them as my primary chequing account. 🙂
Thanks for your feedback though!
Cheers,
Doug
8:20 am
October 15, 2015
9:08 am
December 12, 2009
In a long overdue update, I have completed another significant update to the "free chequing" accounts comparison chart.
Highlighted below are a summary of the updates, which were performed over this weekend (Saturday, April 20, 2019, to be precise). In sequence, I will first describe general updates (i.e., updates to structure or organization, non-institution-specific changes, etc.), identify new products and/or organizations, and then itemize, alphabetically in ascending order by institution, institution-specific changes.
What's New as of Saturday, April 20, 2019:
Summary of General and Non-Institution-Specific Changes
- Restructured the first 6-8 columns, by removing credit union-specific columns on residency limitations and whether accounts could be opened entirely online. Instead, this will apply to both credit unions (provincially- and federally-regulated) and banks. I've also renamed them to shorten up the column names. Note, too, that the newly-renamed "Residency Limitation(s)" column refers to either legislative or regulatory impediments prohibiting out of province residency but also to internal credit union rules and policies. For example, the province of Manitoba permits out of province residency and, indeed, Cambrian Credit Union has a virtual banking branch/division called Achieva Financial that permits non-Manitoba residents yet to open an account with the "parent" institution, their internal policies are such that Manitoba residency is required
- Similarly, since many banks and credit unions have either myriad regional branded "divisions", branches, wholly- and/or majority-owned subsidiaries, the "institution" column was getting pretty wordy in many cases with so many "... a division of x" qualifiers. So, a new column, to the immediate right, called "Type of Organization" has been added. Additionally, in tandem with that change, "Institution" was renamed "Organization," reflecting the fact that some organizations themselves are not separate legal entities and "institution" implies that level of formality. As such, a new "Parent Company" column appears and will be filled in if applicable. For greater clarity and certainty, if the organization is itself the parent company, that column will be blank.
- Also, the "Originating Location / Jurisdication" column has simply been renamed to a shortened "Scope," which reflects, primarily, the organization's geographic target market. Note that if an organization does not accept Quebec residents, continuing current practice, this continues to be noted in a parenthetical qualifier in the "Scope" column, not in the "Residency Limitation(s)" column since an an organization may have no other limitations as to residency requirements.
- If no specific cost is specified, simplified the wording that cheques are available at "standard cost" instead of an approximate cost range. Less need to regularly update this.
- Finally, in order to standardize the verbiage in the "Type of Organization," "Residency Limitation(s)," "Electronic Account Opening for NTB Customers/Members," and "Surcharge-free ATM Network(s)" columns, you will note a second sheet "cell data," particularly if loading the comparison chart in a new browser window/tab. There are currently seven (7) organization types, which include the following: chartered bank; chartered trust or loan company (we currently don't have any of those yet in this chart unless Oaken Financial and EQ Bank were to launch a fee-free chequing account, but this was included for future use); federal credit union; provincial credit union; branch of a chartered bank, trust, or loan company; branch of a federal or provincial credit union; and, regional brand of a provincial credit union. Options for the "Residency Limitation(s)" column include the country of Canada, Canada's ten provinces and its three territories. Options for "Electronic Account Opening for NTB Customers/Members" include either a "yes" or "no". Finally, options for "Surcharge-free ATM Network(s)" include either of Acculink ("ding-free™"), The Exchange, Acculink + The Exchange, CIBC, or Scotiabank + Global ATM Alliance. On that later point, since only one organization uses that ATM network (Tangerine), in order to remove some unnecessary word bloat, I've stopped itemizing all the partner members of the Global ATM Alliance. Further information on its members and geographic scope are available from Tangerine's website.
New Products and/or Organizations
- Added Motive Financial's new Cha-Ching Chequing Account, the first time we now have two, no-fee chequing accounts from a single organization
- Added Motus Bank and its No-fee Chequing Account
- Added North Peace Savings & Credit Union and its B.Free Personal chequing account which, although geographically limited by provincial legislation and regulation to B.C. residents, can now be opened entirely online using their OpenAnywhere™ technology
Summary of Institution-Specific Changes, by Organization
- Cambrian Credit Union
- Updated "Residency Limitation(s)" to Manitoba to reflect the credit union's internal policies prohibiting out of province residency from joining the parent organization - Coast Capital Savings Federal Credit Union
- Updated organization name from Coast Capital Savings Credit Union reflecting its federal continuance effective November 1, 2018. Related to this, under "Additional Note(s)," have added a note of the federal continuance effective date and a second note noting that although there are no institution-specific or legislative/regulatory prohibitions as to residency, they're currently not set up to accept out of province residents in terms of their website yet
- At the "Drawbacks" column, added a note that they don't yet offer self-to-self, bank-to-bank transfers yet
- Updated "Product link" (which was also renamed as a column name) URL following a further website relaunch - Cornerstone Credit Union
- Updated product name to "No-Fee Personal Chequing Account" reflecting a further product name change from No-Fee Account and added an additional note reflecting this
- Added that they have resumed offering free and unlimited Interac e-Transfers on this account again, with an added additional note to reflect this, too - CS Alterna Bank
- For the purposes of standards and consistency within this existing comparison chart, have updated the "Organization" name to reflect its legal name CS Alterna Bank, even though it does business and markets itself as Alterna Bank
- Added parent company, dropping the "Ltd" corporation type to the new "Parent Company" column
- Updated the fact that they now offer free and unlimited Interac e-Transfers, instead of only three (3) for free - DUCA Financial Services Credit Union
- Updated "Scope" and "Residency Limitation(s)" to reflect that (a) they're now only targeting, passively and actively, Ontario residents and that (b) their corporate internal policies have been updated so as to make mandatory Ontario residency - Enderby and District Financial
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, no other updates - Envision Financial
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, added as a "drawback" that self-to-self, bank-to-bank transfers cost $1.00 each. (However, if Peter, who, I think, has an account with them can confirm if indeed Me-to-Me Transfers are free, that'd be helpful and would mean their service fee schedule is out of date.) - First Calgary Financial
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, updated "Product link" URL to reflect a major website relaunch - FirstOntario Credit Union
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, updated "Product link" URL to reflect a major website relaunch
- Also, updated that NTB ("new-to-bank") memberships can appear to be opened entirely online now, possibly in tandem with the major website relaunch, even though Ontario residency is still required due to their internal company policies and/or rules - Innovation Credit Union
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, updated product name to the "No-Fee Bank Account" from the former No-Fee Account, with an additional note reflecting this, too - Island Savings
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, added as a "drawback" that self-to-self, bank-to-bank transfers cost $1.00 each. (However, if Peter, who, I think, has an account with Envision Financial can confirm if indeed Me-to-Me Transfers are free, that'd be helpful and would mean that Island Savings likely does not also charge such fees and that, in turn, its service fee schedule is also out of date.) - Motive Financial
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns, standardized cheque cost verbiage, or updates that have which previously been mentioned (i.e., new product), added to the "Motive Chequing Account" product two additional additional notes that reflect (a) that the banking service was formerly branded as Canadian Direct Financial and that (b) the "Motive Chequing Account" was formerly branded as the "KeyDirect Chequing Account" - Simplii Financial
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, no other updates - Tangerine Bank
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns, standardized cheque cost verbiage, or updates that have which previously been mentioned (i.e., surcharge-free ATM network(s) verbiage), added two additional notes to reflect their previous company name (ING Bank of Canada) and no-fee daily chequing account product name (THRiVE Chequing Account) - Valley First
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, no other updates
Despite a few removals of no-fee chequing accounts (including early pioneer Citizens Bank of Canada, which is now known as Vancity Community Investment Bank), we now have 19 product offerings from 18 different organizations (15 different legal entities since First West Credit Union operates four regional branded "divisions"), of varying geographic scope, offering no-fee chequing accounts to residents age 18+ of every region of Canada.
With EQ Bank offering free and unlimited bill payments and Interac e-Transfers, I'm contemplating adding their EQ Savings Account to this chart since, essentially, it can do everything a chequing account can except write cheques, make ATM deposits/withdrawals, or Interac point-of-sale purchases. Since most people use their credit cards for point-of-sale purchases and rarely write cheques, I'd be curious to know what the community's thoughts are on that. Should it be added, or no? If it were to be added, we would still be justified in not adding Implicity Financial's account since it does not offer bill payments and free & unlimited Interac e-Transfers, in addition to free & unlimited Interac point-of-sale purchases.
Similarly, while HSBC Bank Canada has also lowered its HSBC Advance Total Relationship Balance qualification criteria to only $5,000 (from $25,000), should it, too, be added? We would need only to modify the inclusion criteria for this chart. Note that the reason to add it would be the fact that the qualification criteria does not dictate holding the funds in a chequing account, like so many "Big 5" banks do (it can be held in mutual funds, in a self-directed discount brokerage account, in a RRIF, or even in a GIC/term deposit).
With that, I am to finish my major revision and update to the "Services" chart in the next week or two, after I get my income tax filing done.
Cheers,
Doug
11:43 am
December 20, 2016
1:20 pm
March 17, 2018
Doug said
In a long overdue update, I have completed another significant update to the "free chequing" accounts comparison chart.Highlighted below are a summary of the updates, which were performed over this weekend (Saturday, April 20, 2019, to be precise). In sequence, I will first describe general updates (i.e., updates to structure or organization, non-institution-specific changes, etc.), identify new products and/or organizations, and then itemize, alphabetically in ascending order by institution, institution-specific changes.
What's New as of Saturday, April 20, 2019:
Summary of General and Non-Institution-Specific Changes
- Restructured the first 6-8 columns, by removing credit union-specific columns on residency limitations and whether accounts could be opened entirely online. Instead, this will apply to both credit unions (provincially- and federally-regulated) and banks. I've also renamed them to shorten up the column names. Note, too, that the newly-renamed "Residency Limitation(s)" column refers to either legislative or regulatory impediments prohibiting out of province residency but also to internal credit union rules and policies. For example, the province of Manitoba permits out of province residency and, indeed, Cambrian Credit Union has a virtual banking branch/division called Achieva Financial that permits non-Manitoba residents yet to open an account with the "parent" institution, their internal policies are such that Manitoba residency is required
- Similarly, since many banks and credit unions have either myriad regional branded "divisions", branches, wholly- and/or majority-owned subsidiaries, the "institution" column was getting pretty wordy in many cases with so many "... a division of x" qualifiers. So, a new column, to the immediate right, called "Type of Organization" has been added. Additionally, in tandem with that change, "Institution" was renamed "Organization," reflecting the fact that some organizations themselves are not separate legal entities and "institution" implies that level of formality. As such, a new "Parent Company" column appears and will be filled in if applicable. For greater clarity and certainty, if the organization is itself the parent company, that column will be blank.
- Also, the "Originating Location / Jurisdication" column has simply been renamed to a shortened "Scope," which reflects, primarily, the organization's geographic target market. Note that if an organization does not accept Quebec residents, continuing current practice, this continues to be noted in a parenthetical qualifier in the "Scope" column, not in the "Residency Limitation(s)" column since an an organization may have no other limitations as to residency requirements.
- If no specific cost is specified, simplified the wording that cheques are available at "standard cost" instead of an approximate cost range. Less need to regularly update this.
- Finally, in order to standardize the verbiage in the "Type of Organization," "Residency Limitation(s)," "Electronic Account Opening for NTB Customers/Members," and "Surcharge-free ATM Network(s)" columns, you will note a second sheet "cell data," particularly if loading the comparison chart in a new browser window/tab. There are currently seven (7) organization types, which include the following: chartered bank; chartered trust or loan company (we currently don't have any of those yet in this chart unless Oaken Financial and EQ Bank were to launch a fee-free chequing account, but this was included for future use); federal credit union; provincial credit union; branch of a chartered bank, trust, or loan company; branch of a federal or provincial credit union; and, regional brand of a provincial credit union. Options for the "Residency Limitation(s)" column include the country of Canada, Canada's ten provinces and its three territories. Options for "Electronic Account Opening for NTB Customers/Members" include either a "yes" or "no". Finally, options for "Surcharge-free ATM Network(s)" include either of Acculink ("ding-free™"), The Exchange, Acculink + The Exchange, CIBC, or Scotiabank + Global ATM Alliance. On that later point, since only one organization uses that ATM network (Tangerine), in order to remove some unnecessary word bloat, I've stopped itemizing all the partner members of the Global ATM Alliance. Further information on its members and geographic scope are available from Tangerine's website.
New Products and/or Organizations
- Added Motive Financial's new Cha-Ching Chequing Account, the first time we now have two, no-fee chequing accounts from a single organization
- Added Motus Bank and its No-fee Chequing Account
- Added North Peace Savings & Credit Union and its B.Free Personal chequing account which, although geographically limited by provincial legislation and regulation to B.C. residents, can now be opened entirely online using their OpenAnywhere™ technology
Summary of Institution-Specific Changes, by Organization
- Cambrian Credit Union
- Updated "Residency Limitation(s)" to Manitoba to reflect the credit union's internal policies prohibiting out of province residency from joining the parent organization- Coast Capital Savings Federal Credit Union
- Updated organization name from Coast Capital Savings Credit Union reflecting its federal continuance effective November 1, 2018. Related to this, under "Additional Note(s)," have added a note of the federal continuance effective date and a second note noting that although there are no institution-specific or legislative/regulatory prohibitions as to residency, they're currently not set up to accept out of province residents in terms of their website yet
- At the "Drawbacks" column, added a note that they don't yet offer self-to-self, bank-to-bank transfers yet
- Updated "Product link" (which was also renamed as a column name) URL following a further website relaunch- Cornerstone Credit Union
- Updated product name to "No-Fee Personal Chequing Account" reflecting a further product name change from No-Fee Account and added an additional note reflecting this
- Added that they have resumed offering free and unlimited Interac e-Transfers on this account again, with an added additional note to reflect this, too- CS Alterna Bank
- For the purposes of standards and consistency within this existing comparison chart, have updated the "Organization" name to reflect its legal name CS Alterna Bank, even though it does business and markets itself as Alterna Bank
- Added parent company, dropping the "Ltd" corporation type to the new "Parent Company" column
- Updated the fact that they now offer free and unlimited Interac e-Transfers, instead of only three (3) for free- DUCA Financial Services Credit Union
- Updated "Scope" and "Residency Limitation(s)" to reflect that (a) they're now only targeting, passively and actively, Ontario residents and that (b) their corporate internal policies have been updated so as to make mandatory Ontario residency- Enderby and District Financial
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, no other updates- Envision Financial
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, added as a "drawback" that self-to-self, bank-to-bank transfers cost $1.00 each. (However, if Peter, who, I think, has an account with them can confirm if indeed Me-to-Me Transfers are free, that'd be helpful and would mean their service fee schedule is out of date.)- First Calgary Financial
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, updated "Product link" URL to reflect a major website relaunch- FirstOntario Credit Union
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, updated "Product link" URL to reflect a major website relaunch
- Also, updated that NTB ("new-to-bank") memberships can appear to be opened entirely online now, possibly in tandem with the major website relaunch, even though Ontario residency is still required due to their internal company policies and/or rules- Innovation Credit Union
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, updated product name to the "No-Fee Bank Account" from the former No-Fee Account, with an additional note reflecting this, too- Island Savings
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, added as a "drawback" that self-to-self, bank-to-bank transfers cost $1.00 each. (However, if Peter, who, I think, has an account with Envision Financial can confirm if indeed Me-to-Me Transfers are free, that'd be helpful and would mean that Island Savings likely does not also charge such fees and that, in turn, its service fee schedule is also out of date.)- Motive Financial
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns, standardized cheque cost verbiage, or updates that have which previously been mentioned (i.e., new product), added to the "Motive Chequing Account" product two additional additional notes that reflect (a) that the banking service was formerly branded as Canadian Direct Financial and that (b) the "Motive Chequing Account" was formerly branded as the "KeyDirect Chequing Account"- Simplii Financial
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, no other updates- Tangerine Bank
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns, standardized cheque cost verbiage, or updates that have which previously been mentioned (i.e., surcharge-free ATM network(s) verbiage), added two additional notes to reflect their previous company name (ING Bank of Canada) and no-fee daily chequing account product name (THRiVE Chequing Account)- Valley First
- Other than updates to reflect the new columns or standardized cheque cost verbiage, no other updatesDespite a few removals of no-fee chequing accounts (including early pioneer Citizens Bank of Canada, which is now known as Vancity Community Investment Bank), we now have 19 product offerings from 18 different organizations (15 different legal entities since First West Credit Union operates four regional branded "divisions"), of varying geographic scope, offering no-fee chequing accounts to residents age 18+ of every region of Canada.
With EQ Bank offering free and unlimited bill payments and Interac e-Transfers, I'm contemplating adding their EQ Savings Account to this chart since, essentially, it can do everything a chequing account can except write cheques, make ATM deposits/withdrawals, or Interac point-of-sale purchases. Since most people use their credit cards for point-of-sale purchases and rarely write cheques, I'd be curious to know what the community's thoughts are on that. Should it be added, or no? If it were to be added, we would still be justified in not adding Implicity Financial's account since it does not offer bill payments and free & unlimited Interac e-Transfers, in addition to free & unlimited Interac point-of-sale purchases.
Similarly, while HSBC Bank Canada has also lowered its HSBC Advance Total Relationship Balance qualification criteria to only $5,000 (from $25,000), should it, too, be added? We would need only to modify the inclusion criteria for this chart. Note that the reason to add it would be the fact that the qualification criteria does not dictate holding the funds in a chequing account, like so many "Big 5" banks do (it can be held in mutual funds, in a self-directed discount brokerage account, in a RRIF, or even in a GIC/term deposit).
With that, I am to finish my major revision and update to the "Services" chart in the next week or two, after I get my income tax filing done.
Cheers,
Doug
Great job Doug !
Is it possible to add a column for FI's that offer at least initial order of free cheques (Motus, Motive,Simplii) ? And maybe a column for those institutions that will automatically transfer funds into your chequing from savings according to your settings? ( Motive and Motus )
In my opinion it's worthwhile to start a new chart of free all-in-one accounts that DON'T include chequing, but do include free e-transfers, free bill pay,free auto debit, free Me2Me ( I think EQ bank, Motus, Alterna ).
I don't think HSBC should be included in free chequing since you do need the 5000 dollars deposited
Just my 2cents.
2:48 pm
December 12, 2009
Thanks for the feedback and comments, Briguy!
In terms of the free initial order of cheques, the chart does already state this in the "cheques" column. To me, since most of them provide at least a starter batch for free, it will state something like "free 1st batch of cheques (approx. 20-25 leaves)" or "free 1st batch of cheques (50 leaves)", as applicable. I'm not sure that the starter batch needs another column, though, no?
I'm not quite sure what you mean by your second suggestion of automatic transfers from chequing to savings. All of the listed free chequing accounts offer the ability to set up scheduled, recurring and automatic transfers from chequing to savings or from savings to chequing (through online banking, at a minimum, or optionally, by paper-based form in some cases). I haven't itemized that feature because it comes standards with all accounts. Or, do you mean like First West's BigChange™ feature whereby your point-of-sale purchases are automatically rounded up to the nearest dollar or $5.00 and the difference transferred to your designated savings account? We could add that, if it was felt that there would be a demand for that feature in the chart. Alternatively, it could also go in the "Services chart," which I'm going to revise and update next. Or, it could go in both.
I will talk to Peter what he thinks about creating a free day-to-day banking account chart, but my only concern is we'd end up with a lot of free chequing accounts also in the free day-to-day banking account chart. So, that's why I was thinking about including EQ Bank's Savings Account in the "free chequing" chart. Perhaps, then, in a future iteration, we could look at renaming the "free chequing" chart to a "free day-to-day banking" chart and then add that second column you mentioned about cheques with the existing "cheques" column being a simple "yes" or "no" as to whether they can be used or not and the new column pertaining to "cheque orders"?
Thanks for your feedback on HSBC Advance...I'd be fine with including it, since the $5,000 can be held elsewhere (i.e., in a savings account) and does not involve holding it in a non-interest bearing chequing account. However, my reason for wanting not to include it is because of HSBC's parent company's boycott of financing future Alberta oilsands projects.
Cheers,
Doug
3:31 pm
March 17, 2018
Doug said
Thanks for the feedback and comments, Briguy!In terms of the free initial order of cheques, the chart does already state this in the "cheques" column. To me, since most of them provide at least a starter batch for free, it will state something like "free 1st batch of cheques (approx. 20-25 leaves)" or "free 1st batch of cheques (50 leaves)", as applicable. I'm not sure that the starter batch needs another column, though, no?
I'm not quite sure what you mean by your second suggestion of automatic transfers from chequing to savings. All of the listed free chequing accounts offer the ability to set up scheduled, recurring and automatic transfers from chequing to savings or from savings to chequing (through online banking, at a minimum, or optionally, by paper-based form in some cases). I haven't itemized that feature because it comes standards with all accounts. Or, do you mean like First West's BigChange™ feature whereby your point-of-sale purchases are automatically rounded up to the nearest dollar or $5.00 and the difference transferred to your designated savings account? We could add that, if it was felt that there would be a demand for that feature in the chart. Alternatively, it could also go in the "Services chart," which I'm going to revise and update next. Or, it could go in both.
I will talk to Peter what he thinks about creating a free day-to-day banking account chart, but my only concern is we'd end up with a lot of free chequing accounts also in the free day-to-day banking account chart. So, that's why I was thinking about including EQ Bank's Savings Account in the "free chequing" chart. Perhaps, then, in a future iteration, we could look at renaming the "free chequing" chart to a "free day-to-day banking" chart and then add that second column you mentioned about cheques with the existing "cheques" column being a simple "yes" or "no" as to whether they can be used or not and the new column pertaining to "cheque orders"?
Thanks for your feedback on HSBC Advance...I'd be fine with including it, since the $5,000 can be held elsewhere (i.e., in a savings account) and does not involve holding it in a non-interest bearing chequing account. However, my reason for wanting not to include it is because of HSBC's parent company's boycott of financing future Alberta oilsands projects.
Cheers,
Doug
I think the other FI's have a way of automating a recurrent transfer between chequing and savings, but not in keeping your chequing account at an exact balance, the way Motus and Meridian do. eg. You can keep all your money in your savings account besides 500.00 and tell Motus and Meridian to top up your chequing account each day to 500.00 .
I didn't see the column about the free cheques as I didn't scroll over- sorry !!
I like your idea to rename your chart as free day to day banking accounts and then have one section for free savings account and the other section for free chequing accounts. One column at the end of the table could summarize for that bank if a chequing account is only needed if you need to write a cheque,is not available, or is needed along with the free savings account to get every feature for free.
9:17 pm
December 12, 2009
Briguy said
I think the other FI's have a way of automating a recurrent transfer between chequing and savings, but not in keeping your chequing account at an exact balance, the way Motus and Meridian do. eg. You can keep all your money in your savings account besides 500.00 and tell Motus and Meridian to top up your chequing account each day to 500.00 .
Thanks for clarifying how that Sweep feature with Motus and Meridian works, Briguy, in this post. Also, thank you for for referring to Motus by their legal name, not their cumbersome and awkward logotype 'motusbank'. I definitely prefer their legal name, Motus Bank, which can be optionally shortened to simply Motus.
I didn't see the column about the free cheques as I didn't scroll over- sorry !!
No worries, just wanted to make sure you eventually found out about it.
I like your idea to rename your chart as free day to day banking accounts and then have one section for free savings account and the other section for free chequing accounts. One column at the end of the table could summarize for that bank if a chequing account is only needed if you need to write a cheque,is not available, or is needed along with the free savings account to get every feature for free.
Thanks for your feedback, Briguy. I can't make any promises on that, but will discuss it with Peter in the next year or so.
Cheers,
Doug
5:07 pm
December 12, 2009
I've updated the free chequing comparison chart. No new free chequing accounts to add, and I'd been on the fence in adding HSBC Advance, but with RBC buying HSBC Canada and planning to demise the HSBC Canada products, there's now zero rationale in adding it.
One change:
- Conexus Credit Union used to offer applications from non-Saskatchewan residents, if they visited a Saskatchewan branch to finalize account opening. This is now no longer the case. Saskatchewan residency is now required. I considered removing them, and may still, considering fellow Saskatchewan credit union Innovation Credit Union has a pan-Canadian no fee chequing account and is planning to continue federally. They also apply a limit of thirty (30) free outgoing Interac e-Transfers per month
A few removals:
- Cornerstone Credit Union, also of Saskatchewan, has been removed, as its no-fee chequing account is no longer offered
- Enderby & District Financial, a division of First West Credit Union, technically still exists, but no longer has a separate website. It's literally just one page on the valleyfirst.com domain. Thus, I view that as First West hanging on to the brand by a thread and to manipulate Google search results for SEO purposes. Thus, we don't need to play that game and can remove it
- First Calgary Financial, a division of Connect First Credit Union Limited, has been removed as they no longer offer a no-fee chequing account. Interestingly, and wisely, Connect First has discontinued the First West multi brand approach and likely discontinued their technology partnership with First West and adopted the Connect First brand for all their merged credit union branches
- North Peace Savings and Credit Union now no longer offers their B.Free Chequing Plan, and has resumed charging monthly fees, so it's been removed. They are also in merger discussions with Interior Savings Credit Union (literally the worst credit union in Canada from customer service and human resources standpoints! I would never bank with them again, and I say this having had their Fat Cat Savings Account as a kid)
Cheers,
Doug
12:54 am
March 3, 2022
This is brilliant. Thanks a lot Doug! Thanks Peter for implementing!
Feature request: A column indicating "External account linking method" perhaps? Possible values could be
- Void cheque (via secure msg/email)
- PDF/Web PAD form (ext bank a/c details via secure msg/email)
- Flinks (provide ext bank's username & password)
- None/NA
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