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Best accounts for an 18 year-old?
March 25, 2018
11:04 pm
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Hello!
I just opened an account with EQ a while back because it required the least hassle for the best interest rate and was hoping my niece could also open an account and start saving. During my search, I kept running up on this issue of "minor" though and as it's defined by province I was rather confused. She's 18 and lives in BC and that means she can vote but can't buy drinks or smoke. Is she old enough to have her own bank account, online or at a regular bank? I think her CIBC account is going to start charging her soon too she said, so I assume they are considering her an adult. I was wondering what options she has to make the most of her banking experience.
Help is much appreciated in advance!
Amy

March 26, 2018
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Try Accelerate or Hubert or Oaken or Implicity.
Accelerate and Implicity have Cheques and ATM cards but Accelerate only has one free withdrawal per month.

March 26, 2018
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If she is a full time university student, her CIBC account should be free.

https://www.cibc.com/en/student/bank-accounts.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwtOLVBRCZARIsADPLtJ2YKbSrd-C_69pqDkiG1_EmewpmF8C03_zYbEGaSFvodCzhaHA5ev0aAviUEALw_wcB&utrc=S232:44&s_kwcid=AL!4740!3!254337257457!b!!g!!%2Bcibc%20%2Bstudent%20%2Baccount&ef_id=WlziwgAAAFVPvUsY:20180326155530:s

swtheart said
Hello!
I just opened an account with EQ a while back because it required the least hassle for the best interest rate and was hoping my niece could also open an account and start saving. During my search, I kept running up on this issue of "minor" though and as it's defined by province I was rather confused. She's 18 and lives in BC and that means she can vote but can't buy drinks or smoke. Is she old enough to have her own bank account, online or at a regular bank? I think her CIBC account is going to start charging her soon too she said, so I assume they are considering her an adult. I was wondering what options she has to make the most of her banking experience.
Help is much appreciated in advance!
Amy  

March 26, 2018
9:12 am
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I would look at tangerine.

Free checking. Pays interest
Uses 3,500 scotia bank abms for free
Open a savings account, keep bulk of money there. Easy transfer over to checking account.
Cdic backed.

To Peter. I kept this post on topic. I did not rant about cdic.

March 26, 2018
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Federal government says you have to be at least 18 to open a TFSA (starting a TFSA GIC is a good grad present too!), so can't imagine the banks would prevent her from opening an account. I'd look at Motive for day-to-day banking, they have decent rates (for GIC's anyway) and a good banking package, and EQ for savings. Keeping savings in a separate bank is a good philosophy. Tangerine has a good package but terrible interest rates. If you want a good banking experience, I don't think having to train her to play Tangs games and chase promos for a good return would qualify.

March 26, 2018
10:05 am
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Really depending on the young man needs. My sons all started with CIBC which is nearby my house. They can have a free account until graduating from University, and a no-fee credit card to build the credit history.

One thing I like CIBC is that they provide free credit alerts for all credit card holders.

Of course, if saving interests are the concern, then there are many high interest accounts discussed in this forum.

March 26, 2018
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My advice: Keep it simple with a brick and mortar bank (or the likes of Tangerine) with ready access to ATMs (and debit card). Though she is not age of majority of 19 in BC and the account will still have to be in trust until age 19.

For example, she cannot open a TFSA until age 19. https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/individuals/topics/tax-free-savings-account/who-open-a-tfsa.html

Added: The important thing for a youngster starting out is to learn how to manage a budget, i.e. payroll deposits, use of a debit card, and to put some money into savings, however little it is on a regular basis, and however little the interest rate is.

March 26, 2018
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It's been mentioned here before that TD Canada Trust allows 12 year-olds to have their own, not in trust, accounts, so legal age of majority appears not to be an issue in opening bank accounts unless the fi chooses to make it one.

AltaRed, the link you provided indicates you can open a TFSA at age 18.

March 26, 2018
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On age to open accounts, I recognize it is probably up to the FI. The few institutions I checked didn't allow it and jumped to the conclusion that was the case for all FIs.

But regarding TFSA, did you not see this note on the linked page?

In certain provinces and territories, the legal age (depends on the age of majority) at which an individual can enter into a contract (which includes opening a TFSA) is 19. In 2009 or later, in these jurisdictions, a person turning 18 years of age who would otherwise be eligible accumulates TFSA contribution room for that year and carries it over to the following year.

March 26, 2018
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AltaRed, I did not notice it, thanks. So in BC, Newfoundland, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia one has to wait until age 19 to open a TFSA and then can contribute two years' worth of room.

March 26, 2018
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I can't say what the various FIs will consider as minimum age, but I recall some saying 18. She already has a CIBC account in BC. Is that an independent account of her own?

Apart from the issue of age, I think one of the first questions should be about banking fees. At that age, it is unlikely that she has a lot of money. Fees eat into a smaller account more than a larger one, as a percentage.

So, first, she needs to confirm with CIBC how long she can remain fee-free. We don't know if she is a student or if she will continue to be one.

Many of the financial institutions that have been mentioned above require the client to maintain an account at a traditional bank as well.

I would focus first on her traditional bank and see what the best deal is there. Let us know and perhaps we can then suggest something else.

March 27, 2018
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Thanks everyone for your input.
It looks like Accelerate does offer accounts for 18-year-olds and a 2% interest rate. It's out of Manitoba though, so does anyone know if that makes a difference? I couldn't find anything specific on the site.

As for brick and motor, she has CIBC now, but the info here (https://www.cibconline.cibc.com/ebm-resources/public/omni-account-open/client/web/index.html#/apply/4597720) is rather unclear as to when she stops qualifying for this account, which she currently holds. I tweeted to CIBC because they're online chat doesn't work at all.

She is graduating high school in June and unlikely to pursue post-secondary this year.
That means she needs the best option possible at a brick and motor as well as any boost to her savings online until she can open a TFSA next year. Unfortunately, local credit unions seem to require one to be of legal majority. Does anyone know any other banks that offer fee-free accounts until 19 in BC?

Thanks again!

March 27, 2018
1:49 am
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No

March 27, 2018
3:52 am
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The link for CIBC didn't work for me.
However, their "Youth" account is for people "18 and under". https://www.cibc.com/en/personal-banking/bank-accounts/youth-banking-offers.html
I didn't look into the details.

I did look at TD (before I looked at CIBC). They appear to have youth accounts for age under 19, no fees. There is a chequing account version, which she could use to link to a better-interest account at another FI, but it only allows 2 free transactions per month. This could be worked with, however. Tnagerine has free chequing, for instance, so you could deposit and withdraw additional funds there.
Go to https://www.td.com/ca/en/personal-banking/products/bank-accounts/savings-accounts/youth-account/ and click on Account and Other Related Service Fees pdf at the bottom of the page.
So, I would imagine that all the Big Banks offer a free account through 18 yrs. It needs to be a chequing account in order to link with a higher-paying account elsewhere.

I appreciate what AltaRed is saying about keeping it simple and ensuring that this young person first learns the basics of running her own finances. But we don't know if perhaps she has already learned that from part-time jobs etc.?
We also don't know how adept she might be at managing two different financial institutions. You, her relative, are perhaps the better judge of that. Is she comfortable with arithmetic, percentages, etc? or would she just be humouring you by having more than one financial institution, and then find it all too much trouble? If she's really on board with it, then it could work out fine, but if you're pushing it, maybe not so much. We've had at least one other 18 year old on this site who was very savvy.

Let's say she gets some kind of interim-type job until she decides further about school. How much is she going to be able to save? Depends in part on whether she's living at home, whether she's motivated to squirrel or spend, whether she is saving for something in particular etc. The more she is able to put away and the clearer she is about it, the more worthwhile it would be to have a second financial institution (FI) such as Accelerate, Motive etc.

So, if she's living at home, and is keen on saving, perhaps she'll be able to save enough that the extra percent or two that she can get at a second FI will indeed be worth it to her. But bear in mind that if, for example, she saves $5500 in one year - enough for one year's TFSA contribution - the difference between 1% interest and 2% interest is only $55, and that's for a full year and less as she's accumulating it. Yes, it's twice as much, but is it going to be enough to make her want to bother? I don't know the answer, but it's something for you both to think about. You also need to beware of any costs for having new cheques printed, especially for an account which may only be open for one year. That alone could wipe out any savings elsewhere!

I would actually recommend that you get her to contact CIBC herself and find the answer herself. Part of becoming financially independent is learning to deal with the people who hold your money. If she doesn't follow through, then I would say she's not ready to have two FIs. If she does,then she will have learned and accomplished something, and be ready to move on to the next question.

If she does go ahead with the additional savings account, don't see any reason why she couldn't use one of the MB credit unions as her "savings" bank. Many of us do, and we all live in various parts of the country and don't necessarily have any affiliation with MB. If MB only requires a member to be 18, then so be it! But EQ would be fine too for this purpose, if they accept 18. EQ is, as you probably know, aiming at a youth market and is fast.

Rick, who, I believe, lives in BC, recommended Motive, a division of Canadian Western Bank. It is an online-only bank, and she would still need an external account at bricks and mortar to make it work. I was unable to determine from their website whether they will take clients this age.

The more I think about this, the more I think AltaRed is correct, that it's probably not really worth it at this stage to open another account at a higher-interest FI , unless she already has a nest egg of her own. A kid just out of high school isn't going to earn that much in a year to make it worthwhile unless she has an amazing skill set.

March 27, 2018
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I couldn't agree with Loonie more, "I would actually recommend that you get her to contact CIBC herself and find the answer herself." When I was 18 I would have been expected to do stuff like this for myself and today I can't thank my parents enough for that approach.

I also agree with the sentiment to keep it simple at this point, just decide which of the bricks and mortar banks suits you best as a "base" bank and maybe add an online bank for any amounts that can sit temporarily in a higher savings account until you invariably need it for education, travel or other costs of getting established in life. At 18 there will usually be at least a few more years before regular job and the beginning of building the long-term pile.

March 28, 2018
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There's not much BUT maybe there's something here to tide your niece over - BC based, bricks and mortar branches - have a look

https://envisionfinancial.ca/Personal/Bank/?intcid=Personal_MegaMenu_Bank

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