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Rather pathetic from EQ - 3% HISA offer
August 10, 2023
2:49 pm
rhvic
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Got this today in email. A way to boost EQ savings rate from 2.5% to 3.0% for 12 months. I will NOT be taking them up on this, as so many FIs offer much better rates. What is their marketing department thinking??

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NEW: Get 3.00%* on everyday banking.
Hi XXXXXX,

We’ve got big news: you can now earn even more high interest on everyday banking!
Boost your rate to 3.00% interest* on everyday banking
With high interest and no fees on everyday banking, you’re in a good spot to make without the take, and you’ll also get bonus interest when you direct deposit your pay or set up recurring pre-authorized debits.

Another great reason to set that up? You’ll be able to do all your banking in one place, since your account comes with many of the benefits of chequing too —spending money, paying bills, sending money. . . you name it.
Here’s how to get your bonus interest:

• Set up $500/month or more in either direct deposit for your pay or recurring pre-authorized debits
• Applies to your Savings Plus Account, Joint Savings Plus Account and EQ Bank Card1 balance
• Once you set it up, you’ll be eligible for the increased rate of 3.00%* for 12 months!

• If you’ve already set up the above, no need to take any action—you automatically qualify for bonus interest!
• Once your bonus interest is in effect, we’ll send you an email to let you know.
If you’d like to learn more, you can visit our FAQ for more information.

*Interest is calculated daily on the total closing balance and paid monthly. For the EQ Bank Card, interest is paid into the linked Savings Plus Account. Rates are per annum and subject to change without notice. For the Savings Plus Account, Joint Savings Plus Account and EQ Bank Card, the current base interest rate is 2.50%. Customers who add and maintain qualifying recurring direct deposits or pre-authorized debits of at least $500/month to/from a Savings Plus Account or Joint Savings Plus Account are eligible to earn a bonus interest rate of 3.00% for the eligible accounts (the Savings Plus Account, Joint Savings Account and the EQ Bank Card balance) for a maximum period of 12 consecutive months. Conditions apply. Please review the EQ Bank Bonus Interest Offer Terms and Conditions here for details. Interest rates are current as of the date of this email.
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August 10, 2023
3:31 pm
Dean
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rhvic said

. . . What is their marketing department thinking?? . . .

They're probably thinking that; "Not everyone is aware of the better deals that are out there".

It's an EQ Marketing Department fishing trip, to catch 'The Unaware' ... and they'll probably catch quite few !

My Two Centavos sf-wink

    Dean

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August 10, 2023
3:52 pm
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I also got the same email (probably) with the subject "...to boost something...".
I did not even bothered to open that email or completely read full subject, just deleted without thinking, as soon as I saw it's from EQ.
I have so much respect for EQ, ha-ha.

August 10, 2023
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Do you have ANY idea how many people keep their money at Big 5 which pay 0 or close to 0% interest since they do not believe and/or do not trust virtual banks without thick brick walls and glass doors?

August 10, 2023
8:14 pm
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I think EQ is simply choosing to attract deposits through the brokerage channel @ 4.65%.

August 11, 2023
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With their rates, the Big Six banks have over 75% of the high interest savings account deposits according to Investor Economics numbers for December 2021.

August 11, 2023
9:04 am
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pooreva said

Do you have ANY idea how many people keep their money at Big 5 which pay 0 or close to 0% interest since they do not believe and/or do not trust virtual banks without thick brick walls and glass doors?  

That , plus . . .

    - They're just simply not aware of the better choices (the biggest reason?).
    - They don't have enough $$$ in their SAs, to make it worth their while.
    - And finally ... they just don't care.

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The Big Banks love those people, and make Huge profits off them every year.

    Dean

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August 11, 2023
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Many prefer big banks because they believe these banks to be safer as they are backed up by the taxpayer. Not wrong. So, small banks need to pay a risk premium.

August 12, 2023
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It wasn't long ago that EQ Bank consistently had the best (or at least competitive with the best) interest rate for a savings account.

August 12, 2023
4:04 pm
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So much for high interest savings rate at EQ. Just knew the game playing would start. Heck I can now get 5% in my iTrade account, so a no brainer to move my cash out.

August 12, 2023
6:12 pm
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Kirk said

It wasn't long ago that EQ Bank consistently had the best (or at least competitive with the best) interest rate for a savings account.  

It's all part of the normal Ebb & Flow of High Interest Savings Account interest rates.

EQ will most likely be competitive again ... it's just a matter of time.

Meanwhile, we can park our Savings Account $$$ elsewhere.

    Dean

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August 13, 2023
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mordko said
Many prefer big banks because they believe these banks to be safer as they are backed up by the taxpayer. Not wrong. So, small banks need to pay a risk premium.  

Banks, no matter big or small, are paying premium to CDIC.

Smaller banks may have risks of worse custom support, technique issues, etc. But for the safety of the deposit, I don't think they're more risky

August 13, 2023
8:10 pm
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The smaller banks are riskier. That's not because of their size but because of the kinds of loans they fund and how they raise deposits.

As well, deposit insurance doesn't guarantee the deposit and interest will be paid on time. Globe & Mail columnist Rob Carrick explained it in 2017 when Home Trust almost failed and was offering market leading GIC rates.

If one can tolerate one's five-year compounding GIC being paid late in five year's time, then, by all means, buy an Oaken 5-year compounding GIC. One will receive the principal and interest eventually because of the deposit insurance.

But, if one needs the GIC interest to be paid out monthly to pay one's nursing home bill and other expenses, then don't be tempted. The consequences of having a monthy interest payment or two delayed isn't worth it.

October 12, 2023
9:07 am
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Today, I got the email copied below from EQ. The thing is that I have not set up any recurring deposit to any accounts there. So why would they send me this announcement?

We’re writing to confirm that your increased rate is now in effect, as you’ve successfully taken the steps required to start earning 3.00%* on the money deposited in the applicable account(s). You will continue to earn the increased rate for 12 consecutive months, provided that you continue to meet the criteria of setting up $500/month or more in either direct deposit for your pay or recurring pre-authorized debits.

For more details about this rate and its requirements, click here.

Sincerely,
EQ Bank

October 12, 2023
9:26 am
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EQ doesn't need the short-term deposits, they offer higher for GIC's.
I know someone with 150K in a low-interest major bank savings account, and they won't move it, even to make $750 a month in interest from it.
Que Será, Será

October 12, 2023
10:22 am
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Doesn't have to be deposits. Recurring $500+ per month of pre-authorized debits will also qualify for the 3% offer.

October 12, 2023
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InterestThis said
EQ doesn't need the short-term deposits, they offer higher for GIC's.
I know someone with 150K in a low-interest major bank savings account, and they won't move it, even to make $750 a month in interest from it.
Que Será, Será  

Imagine that person receives pension, OAS, CPP, RRSP/RIFF... maybe GIS. Adding income from interest might screw up his/her taxes. Maybe it is better to get everything government gives you then earning high interest...

October 12, 2023
6:47 pm
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pooreva said

Imagine that person receives pension, OAS, CPP, RRSP/RIFF... maybe GIS. Adding income from interest might screw up his/her taxes. Maybe it is better to get everything government gives you then earning high interest...  

Sure, except they could use a a TFSA.
But this person I was mentioning is still working, they are just irrationally afraid of losing money and stick to their home bank savings account

October 14, 2023
10:55 am
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AltaRed said
I think EQ is simply choosing to attract deposits through the brokerage channel @ 4.65%.  

I don't think it's that so much, no. Well, sort of. Their deposit strategy seems to be two-fold, one for their direct channel (EQ Bank) and one for the brokerage channel. For the direct channel, they want to focus on customer growth, with smaller total deposit balances of $25,000 or less per customer, as that presents less liquidity risk to the bank, but also on both growing and shifting their demand deposits in the direct channel to fixed-term deposits. Their annual reports bare this out. For the brokerage channel, it's basically a source of quick, higher cost liquidity and funding (i.e., "we'll take it, but we prefer our direct business").

As well, we also need to consider the benefits the EQ Bank Savings Plus Account provides. Other than not being able to write paper-based cheques, it's effectively also a day-to-day banking/chequing account. What other bank pays you 2.5% interest on your chequing account balances (3% with recurring payroll or pension income deposit)? In this way, I think it's consistent with their strategy to get more people with $1,000-5,000 balances. And for me, $5,000 earning 2.5-3.0% is not that much different than $5,000 earning 3.5-4.0%. For my larger deposits, absolutely, I'll go with an ISA.

And for EQ Bank, though it may require more marketing spending, it's a good strategy. If you can attract 500,000 and, eventually, 1 million direct clients with average balances of $25,000 each (some will have more, some will have less, yes), isn't that better than, say, 10,000 clients with $100,000-250,000 balances? ($25 billion in direct deposits versus $2.5 billion in direct deposits, based on the high end of the estimates.)

Two facts stand out to me, in terms of the credit unions' virtual divisions: no credit union virtual banking and deposits division has managed to crack the $1 billion mark in direct deposits, and no credit union virtual banking and deposits division has managed to crack 10,000 active direct clients. (And yes, I'm generously including Alterna Bank as a credit union virtual division, even though it's technically a chartered bank subsidiary of Alterna Savings.)

Cheers,
Doug

October 14, 2023
11:07 am
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pooreva said

Imagine that person receives pension, OAS, CPP, RRSP/RIFF... maybe GIS. Adding income from interest might screw up his/her taxes. Maybe it is better to get everything government gives you then earning high interest...  

The OAS clawback threshold only starts at $75,000 gross per person, per year. Annual bank interest payments wouldn't move the needle materially above that threshold and, so, any clawback would be miniscule (pennies to a few dollars per month/per year).

No one should be concerning themselves with trying to earn GIS in retirement. That is the epitomy of being penny wise and pound foolish, as that forces your annual income below the poverty line.

I personally like the idea of my expenses being below the poverty line, but I would not want my income to be constrained by this.

As well, GIS is the highest form of social welfare (OAS technically is too; it's not a pension, nor is it an entitlement).

Cheers,
Doug

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