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July 15, 2022
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dollarbill
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Duca sounds too good. What are the bad parts?

July 15, 2022
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dollarbill said
Duca sounds too good. What are the bad parts?  

Setting up other FI accounts as transfer destinations or sources is a paper form affair. Fortunately, other FI's can establish such links much simpler.

A phone call is required for every transfer into that "Park" account. Fortunately, I've never waited more than 15 minutes. Unfortunately, I hate waiting ...

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July 15, 2022
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Duca has some fairly significant restrictions on transfers in and out. And, for whatever reason, their check deposit app maxes out at only 10K

July 15, 2022
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dollarbill said
Duca sounds too good. What are the bad parts?  

I haven't encountered any deficiencies in the years I have dealt with them. Yes, the transfer to the PARK account requires either a visit to the branch or call to Member Connect, but that's how they manage their promo HISA program.

In my view, DUCA is one of the top CU's in the Country from general efficiency to overall consistent value.

I would not hesitate to recommend them.

Oh yes, I can't stand the music they play when the call is on hold waiting for Member Connect.

Stephen

July 15, 2022
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dollarbill said
Duca sounds too good. What are the bad parts?  

Small print for their 3.1% Earn More Savings Promotion account:

The Promotion account is not accessible at an ATM and cannot be used for bill payments, telephone banking, remote cheque deposits, or any type of e-transfer.

Online transfers and transfers through the DUCA phone app are not possible as the Promotion account is only accessible to DUCA staff.

July 15, 2022
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dollarbill said
Duca sounds too good. What are the bad parts?  

Products and services only available to Ontario residents.

July 15, 2022
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Alexandre said

Small print for their 3.1% Earn More Savings Promotion account:

The Promotion account is not accessible at an ATM and cannot be used for bill payments, telephone banking, remote cheque deposits, or any type of e-transfer.

Online transfers and transfers through the DUCA phone app are not possible as the Promotion account is only accessible to DUCA staff.

  

While the Park (promotional) account is not available as a "Destination/To Account" in Online Banking Transfers, it does appear as a "Source/From Account". But I have yet to test that ...

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July 15, 2022
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Oh yes, I can't stand the music they play when the call is on hold waiting for Member Connect.

That music is REALLY annoying!!

July 15, 2022
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Bad: Transferring money out of DUCA takes ~3 business days.

Good: Interest rate increasing to 3.25% on July 18

July 15, 2022
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Another quirk to watch for ...

Occasionally, DUCA offer GIC Promos. A few years ago, that was a 5Yr 2.5% GIC with Interest payable quarterly and redeemable quarterly. Once "purchased" that GIC showed up as 5Yr non-redeemable. I was told that was the only standard descriptor they had but the terms were as per the promo. I asked for a document that confirmed the GIC was as promoted and not per the descriptor. I did get that 10 days later and that doc is attached to our DUCA account and every CSR sees when they look at your account.

I will be cashing out that GIC next week when it crosses its next quarter and move the funds to greener pastures but not the DUCA 3.25% HISA Park cause so far they have said they won't treat it as new funds qualifiable for the Park Promo ...

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July 15, 2022
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mustang said
Oh yes, I can't stand the music they play when the call is on hold waiting for Member Connect.

That music is REALLY annoying!!  

Yes but better that some voice telling you "Hang on" every 30 seconds ... 🙂

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July 15, 2022
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Something else ... Telephone customer service as good as Hubert, i.e. excellent ...

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July 15, 2022
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Thank you everyone for all the information.

July 15, 2022
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You CAN get money out of your Park account without calling Customer Service. It's just a matter of knowing how. First, you go online and transfer Park funds into another account such as chequing or Earn More Savings (non-Park). Then you proceed as you normally would from there to get money from ATM or whatever you need to do. Works every time for me.

Also, my recent experience is that DUCA has speeded up its transfers-out. They usually arrive next day now.

For maximum efficiency, DUCA will work better if you live near a branch. You can deposit large cheques there, for instance. That said, I have friends who have belonged to DUCA for about 50 years, don't live near a branch, and are very loyal to DUCA.
Parking is a pain at the Mount Pleasant location.

July 16, 2022
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cgouimet said
Another quirk to watch for ...
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I will be cashing out that GIC next week when it crosses its next quarter and move the funds to greener pastures but not the DUCA 3.25% HISA Park cause so far they have said they won't treat it as new funds qualifiable for the Park Promo ...  

It CAN qualify... you simply have to withdraw the funds, then re-deposit them. Then they will be treated as new funds. There is no waterline method used.

July 16, 2022
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cgouimet said

While the Park (promotional) account is not available as a "Destination/To Account" in Online Banking Transfers, it does appear as a "Source/From Account". But I have yet to test that ...  

It works fine... Also no need to transfer to another account before withdrawal.

July 16, 2022
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smayer97 said

It CAN qualify... you simply have to withdraw the funds, then re-deposit them. Then they will be treated as new funds. There is no waterline method used.  

Once I transfer the funds out, I may just do the 3Mo thing at Hubert instead ...

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July 19, 2022
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mustang said
Oh yes, I can't stand the music they play when the call is on hold waiting for Member Connect.

That music is REALLY annoying!!  

Indeed ... One track on a continuous loop!

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July 19, 2022
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cgouimet said

Indeed ... One track on a continuous loop!  

Kim Mitchell, formerly of Max Webster calls it "committing jazz".

August 9, 2022
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dollarbill said
Duca sounds too good. What are the bad parts?  

- Still somewhat oldish way of doing banking (visiting branches, or calling and waiting for things more often than not) and branches are far apart

- reduced my credit score by 27 points with a hard inquiry when I had opened (Called them and they said yes they indeed made a hard hit to equifax! Sneaky since there was no borrowing and just a savings account!)

- convoluted manner of funds transfer between accounts & linking of external ones requires more visits

- read the limits and fees (inc inactivity fees)

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