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What Credit Card(s) do you use?
June 28, 2016
6:55 pm
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Any new suggestions or offers on cash back Mastercards?

June 28, 2016
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I don't think there has been anything new since Tangerine.

Funny you should ask. Only last night I went through all our credit card billings for 2015 and totalled up spending in the major categories. I decided to stay right where we were. The advantage to us of going with Tangerine was well under $100/yr. I don't want to add another card to the wallet, and have to worry about meeting another deadline with costly penalties, unless it's more worthwhile than that, as we will not be giving up our existing primary card.

I know most people on this forum seem to go for cards with no fee, but my calculations show that it depends on how much you use the card. The fee is fixed, but the "reward" increases with volume. The more money you spend on the card, the more likely a fee card is going to be worth your while. Also, cash-back is certainly the most flexible, but doesn't always pay the best return.
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We might still go for the Costco card at some point though, as a secondary. For our spending habits, it worked out to better advantage than Tangerine, which was a surprise to me, and better in its limited categories than our primary card.

EDITED, and added:

If you are a "big spender" on credit card, then the MBNA card may be worth your while even with the fee. Personally, I prefer to deal with cards from the big Canadian banks. I just find them easier to deal with, more courteous, more likely to speak English that I am able to understand.

Last week, had to call both BMO and RBC re: credit cards, asking the same question of each. RBC won by a mile in terms of professionalism, language, and knowing what they were talking about. When I am travelling or stuck somewhere where I really need my credit card, I am under some stress, and the last thing I want is to have to speak to someone I can't understand or who doesn't understand the issue. Frankly, I didn't expect such a big difference between these two banks. That's only one instance, but it has stuck with me.

June 28, 2016
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I recently lightened my wallet too.
Sears card gone......not by my doings.....but Sears/Chase
3 Amex account cards gone. Amex will NOT convert to cash back. To have to re apply. In my mind they are useless as cannot use any where.

BUT

With absolutely no hassle and no application BMO converted our Mastecard Air Miles to cash back. New cards with same account numbers as Air Miles.

Ps. Sears MasterCard now BNS MasterCard...same feature......no 2-2.5% surcharge on currency exchange. A couple of weeks ago I paid 1.31 at a USA ATM and same day purchase on BNS Mastecard was 1.27.

Pps. Shopping in Costco USA?? Need a Visa card now.

Ppps. Costco Canada still shoving applications in your face for the new MasterCard.

June 29, 2016
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I've just been reading this topic's posts. What jumped out at me (not which card to use), but the idea of buying gift cards, getting a reward for doing so, and then using the card and getting another reward! Have I got this right? If I have, please let me know and I'll go buy gift cards before my 4% at Tangerine runs out on July 10th. I wonder how many other ways of saving I'm unaware of! I'll have fun searching for answers.....

June 29, 2016
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JenE said

I've just been reading this topic's posts. What jumped out at me (not which card to use), but the idea of buying gift cards, getting a reward for doing so, and then using the card and getting another reward! Have I got this right? If I have, please let me know and I'll go buy gift cards before my 4% at Tangerine runs out on July 10th. I wonder how many other ways of saving I'm unaware of! I'll have fun searching for answers.....

Yup. I often buy Best Buy and other gift cards at Petro Canada which allows me to also collect Petro Points while getting the 4% back. Then use the Best buy gift card at Best Buy along with the Best buy Rewards Zone card for additional points.

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June 29, 2016
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Loonie...big banks are moving call centres to India and possibly other countries. No issues for me with BMO. My wife's cousin lost her job at TD a few years ago. Her last assignment was training in India.

June 29, 2016
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kanaka said

Loonie...big banks are moving call centres to India and possibly other countries. No issues for me with BMO. My wife's cousin lost her job at TD a few years ago. Her last assignment was training in India.

I know they are doing this and RBC among them, but the person I spoke to at RBC had a local accent, responded appropriately, understood the question. Negative on all three at BMO on this occasion.

June 29, 2016
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Loonie said

kanaka said

Loonie...big banks are moving call centres to India and possibly other countries. No issues for me with BMO. My wife's cousin lost her job at TD a few years ago. Her last assignment was training in India.

I know they are doing this and RBC among them, but the person I spoke to at RBC had a local accent, responded appropriately, understood the question. Negative on all three at BMO on this occasion.

I hear you! BMO and iTrade/BNS seem to have young folks that are in fear of using common sense (or just don't have any) and stick to the rules or make up their own from their lack of interpretation. So while a lot of senior folks have been retired off, with payroll savings, and given golden handshakes and the such. We are left with the new and sometimes untrained ones going us an incompetent level of service. So do we move on, just roll our eyes or get demanding???

December 27, 2016
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Im a big believer in travel card welcome bonuses. Not sure you can consider me a churner, but I like to get 1 or 2 new cards a year, focusing on the welcome bonus. Its a little harder in Canada now with Amex limiting cardholders to one welcome bonus per card per lifetime, but its well worth the effort. GreedyRates came out with a good summary of the different cards available, with sign-up bonus size, minimum spend requirements etc... http://www.greedyrates.ca/blog.....dit-cards/

I wouldn't go crazy and get like 4 cards at once, or you'll blow your credit, but you could definitely get a few a year without a problem. Just out of curiosity, what's the most amount of cards anyone here has gotten in a year?

January 5, 2017
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How about CIBC Aventura Visa Infinite card? They have a 15000 points signing up bonus plus waived first year fee.

March 24, 2017
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Scotia Momentum Visa Infinite card is offering this promo:
"Earn 5% cashback on purchases for the first 3 months plus an introductory 1.99% on balance transfers for the first six months"

Their regular cash back is 4% on gas and groceries, 2% on drug store and recurring bills, and 1% on the rest. They will not waive the first year's fee of 99$ plus 30$ per extra card. The cash back rewards are deposited yearly in November either into a Scotia chequing account or as a credit on the card itself. Not sure I like waiting a year.

Spending 18000$ per year on gas and groceries with 4% cash back vs my current 2% card would net me $360. Worth it? Not sure.

March 24, 2017
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5% , presumably on everything?, is a great deal for the correct 3 months. If you can match it up with major expenses like home renos or major vacation etc., and have a big enough credit limit to enjoy it, I'd go for it for sure.
It has been reported, however, that some credit cards give you a lowish limit to make sure you don't get too much advantage, although I'm not sure if that applies to Scotia. I think I heard about this in regards to CapitalOne.

$360 is what you'd get for a difference in interest rate of .36 on 100K. And it would probably take about the same amount of effort to get it. I think you'd probably pursue that, wouldn't you?

Personally, though, I prefer the cards which give the same rate on everything. I've done the math, and we don't spend enough on their various categories to make it come out better for us. Don't drive a lot. Go to farmers' markets where they don't take credit cards much of the year etc etc. Our biggest category by far is "other", which is never well rewarded by the category system. If you get the "category" cards, you have to be constantly paying attention to which card you are using. I would find that a nuisance.

Still, if it was worth $360 to me, I'd probably take it.

March 24, 2017
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Wise words, Loonie.
And you are right about the 1% "other " being a significant category. That email from Tangerine someone mentioned indicated that they are lowering the 1% to 0.5% next month. That means about 200$ less per year for us in cash back. Maybe I will go for the Visa.

March 24, 2017
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I'd recommend having a MasterCard as well as the Visa, but I would only be willing to pay for one of them.
MC is good for Costco if you belong to them. Also, sometimes one system is down and you need the other. Always good to have a back-up, even if you rarely use it.
I have a store-branded MC. The return on it is terrible, but I like the extended return policy that it gives me - have saved a bundle on that! I essentially only use it for shopping at that particular store, and I don't even do a lot of that, but I like to have time to consider returns. However, they recently sent me a deal where, if I buy gas on it five times (no minimum) within six weeks, they'll give me $25.sf-smile

March 24, 2017
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Loonie said
5% , presumably on everything?, is a great deal for the correct 3 months. If you can match it up with major expenses like home renos or major vacation etc., and have a big enough credit limit to enjoy it, I'd go for it for sure.
It has been reported, however, that some credit cards give you a lowish limit to make sure you don't get too much advantage, although I'm not sure if that applies to Scotia. I think I heard about this in regards to CapitalOne.

There are limits to the Scotia Momentum Visa Infinite card offer and to its regular cashback. Found $3,000 and $25,000 limits in the following in the legal footnotes of the online application:

You will earn 5% cash back on the first $3,000 in purchases posted to your new account beginning on the account open date and ending three months after the account open date.

You will earn regular cash back on purchases made after you have reached the 5% threshold / $3000 in purchase in the first three months. The bonus cash back amount will be applied to your Scotia Momentum Visa Infinite account (the "Account") within 2–3 months after the three-month offer period ends provided your Account is open and in good standing. … Cash Back is not awarded for cash advances (including balance transfers, Scotia Credit Card cheques or cash-like transactions), fees, interest, service/transaction charges, payments, or returns and other similar credits. Offer applies to new Accounts opened by April 30, 2017. …

1 You will earn 4% cash back on the first $25,000 of net purchases you make annually at gas stations and grocery stores (as classified by VISA). You will earn 2% cash back on the first $25,000 of net purchases you make annually on drug stores and recurring bill payments (as classified by VISA). Recurring payments are payments made on a monthly or regular basis automatically billed by a merchant. Some merchants may sell these products/services or are separate merchants who are located on the premises of these merchants, but are classified by VISA in another manner, in which case this added benefit would not apply. You earn 1% cash back on purchases made after you reach the $25,000 annual maximum, and on all other purchases. …

March 24, 2017
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According to their homepage, hubert financial is introducing a credit card. No details yet.

March 25, 2017
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I've been really happy with my Mastercard World Elite credit card, with 2% cash back on everything, no categories. I was searching through the terms and conditions just now and couldn't find anything about an upper limit to purchases as noted above for Scotia Momentum Visa Infinite card.

Another thing I like is the flexibility of the cash back. Can receive it in cheques or bank deposit, credit on next balance, travel or merchandise rewards, or even charitable donations. And not just once a year but every month if you like.
There was an $89 annual fee for this card when I signed up last yr, but first year waived, and 10,000 free points, which amounted to $100 for free!

I've now started putting everything I purchase on this card as well as recurring bills to take advantage of the 2% cash back.
I guess credit card companies can afford to give us "free money" from all the interest they make on customers who don't pay their bills on time.

One drawback however-there was an income limit for this card. I believe it was $70 000 per individual or $120 000 per family.

They do have another no-fee, no-income limit option called Smart Cash Platinum Plus which pays:
5% cash back on gas and grocery purchases for the first 6 months.
2% cash back on gas and grocery purchases thereafter.
1% cash back for other eligible purchases.

Both cards have a number of other benefits, like doubling the manufacturer's warranty on products purchased, some travel and rental car insurance etc, but it was the cash back that interested me the most.

March 28, 2017
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MMontreal said
Im a big believer in travel card welcome bonuses. Not sure you can consider me a churner, but I like to get 1 or 2 new cards a year, focusing on the welcome bonus....

I wouldn't go crazy and get like 4 cards at once, or you'll blow your credit, but you could definitely get a few a year without a problem. Just out of curiosity, what's the most amount of cards anyone here has gotten in a year?  

Agreed. IMO the real value in credit card rewards is the ability to generate near 100K miles within 6 months for little to no spend required. These points plus your spend will generate 4 "long" haul flights, for example, Toronto to California or Toronto to Ireland, return (i.e. 25,000 to 26,000 miles return) plus taxes of approx. $200 per trip. Watch the taxes as these can be significantly higher depending on the airline and route.

If you collect referral points and wait for bonus transfers then this base 100k can be turned into 120k to 150k miles over the course of the year. These miles can be accumulated with 5 credit cards which I always blitz within one month. The impact to your credit rating is immaterial (and actually improves over several months because you have significant credit available with little use). Wait a few bit (6 months to years depending on the card) and repeat. If your spouse does the blitz at the same time then double the above. Happy travels.

March 30, 2017
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How can you generate 100K (100,000) Airmiles within 6 months????????
1mile=spent $20. 100K miles = $2,000,000? Am I missing something?

March 30, 2017
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SavingIsGood said
How can you generate 100K (100,000) Airmiles within 6 months????????
1mile=spent $20. 100K miles = $2,000,000? Am I missing something?  

I think you missed the welcome bonus part of the discussion. i.e. Amex 25,000 miles welcome bonus, TD Areoplan 25,000 miles welcome bonus, etc, etc.

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